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Post by joeelliott on Mar 15, 2015 16:25:17 GMT -5
Hey guys I am at a bit of a loss with growing Dionaea ... They come in from the grower looking awesome and healthy but once I have touched them they are doomed to die within a month or two. I also have trouble with Sarrs but at least I was able to get them to live long enough to go into the fridge for the winter lol (Just took them out yesterday). I can grow Neps, Sundews, Urtics, Orchids, and the single Ping I have without issues but the flytraps don't like me. Each time I have tried I have placed the flytrap into a much larger container than it needs and kept it wet bordering on soggy letting it dry out a bit in between watering (RO water). Lighting is whatever happens to come through the east facing window that i place them in. Temps are ambient household temps, approx 21C with a drop at night to about 16 - 17C. Relative humidity in my home is high usually sitting at about 60%.
Growing pattern seems to be, arrive at my place looking healthy, put out a new leaf of two within the first week, then turn black starting from the tips and be totally dead within 4-6 weeks. I have tried growing them in a plastic bag to keep the humidity really high but that didn't make a difference. Since I can grow many other sensitive plants in my house I don't think it is the humidity level, best guess would be light levels or maybe over watering. I intend to place my Sarrs outside this year in a large 14" pot once the weather permits and want to try flytraps again, do you think they would do much better in with the Sarrs?
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Post by hal on Mar 15, 2015 17:31:30 GMT -5
Try them a bit drier. They don't need as much water as Sarrs or dews.
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Post by lloyd on Mar 15, 2015 18:17:55 GMT -5
They like full sun.
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Post by joeelliott on Mar 16, 2015 18:00:08 GMT -5
A bit dryer and full sun, I will try that Does anyone else have troubles with fly traps or am I the only one?
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Post by lloyd on Mar 16, 2015 19:32:12 GMT -5
The key is that they are outside plants. Sun, rain and wind are good. A good soak followed by just drying out on the surface is good. For the winter you have to do dormancy to avoid hard frosts.
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Post by joeelliott on Jul 6, 2015 21:13:51 GMT -5
So I tried your suggestions, I purchased a couple B52s and a couple Red Dragons. They are approx 6 inches apart in the same container, subsequently getting the same care. The B52 were growing and putting out new pitchers until 2 weeks ago when they started to turn black. I wasn't too worried since there were new traps growing and the black was only on the old traps. They are now almost completely black and I don't think they will make it. The red dragons on the other hand are growing great. No idea what is going wrong here. The Sarrs are growing, the D. intermedia is doing awesome. If the roots are healthy is there a chance the b52s will bounce back?
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Post by amanitovirosa on Jul 6, 2015 21:55:44 GMT -5
...maybe the problem is your media, what do you have them growing in?
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Post by joeelliott on Jul 6, 2015 22:27:45 GMT -5
pure peat moss, and water only with R/O or whatever rain falls on it.
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Post by amanitovirosa on Jul 6, 2015 22:37:32 GMT -5
...I am no expert but I don't think that growing Dionaea in pure peat is a good idea. You should mix it with a medium grade, washed silica sand or at least perlite (which I don't use). I am thinking that in pure peat the roots are not getting enough oxygen. Good luck! G.
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Post by boosted7 on Jul 6, 2015 22:50:37 GMT -5
How much direct sunlight are they getting? They should be getting minimum 4 hours at least.
I'm using 50/50 peat/perlite mix and having good results.
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Post by lloyd on Jul 6, 2015 23:21:33 GMT -5
Peat:Perlite as noted above is the way to go.
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Post by joeelliott on Jul 7, 2015 14:31:20 GMT -5
I will grab some perlite today and try it then. They are getting full sun all day.
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Post by ilikewhatido on Sept 4, 2015 3:38:28 GMT -5
From my experience, flytraps look the best when receiving 12+ hours of direct sunlight(or growlight). Additionally, flytraps don't actually need too much water. As long as the soil is damp(not wet) they will be happy. Pure long fiber sphagnum moss and 50/50 silica sand/peat mix both work great for me.
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Post by olihlt on Sept 17, 2015 8:29:13 GMT -5
Well, that was quick. I had the almost exact same problem (even down to the east side window) and came here to look for suggestions. Well, and found them. I will try it anew, as well with added perlite and reduced water.
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Post by Dennis A(cook1973) on Sept 17, 2015 20:20:41 GMT -5
Hey guys I am at a bit of a loss with growing Dionaea ... They come in from the grower looking awesome and healthy but once I have touched them they are doomed to die within a month or two. I also have trouble with Sarrs but at least I was able to get them to live long enough to go into the fridge for the winter lol (Just took them out yesterday). I can grow Neps, Sundews, Urtics, Orchids, and the single Ping I have without issues but the flytraps don't like me. Each time I have tried I have placed the flytrap into a much larger container than it needs and kept it wet bordering on soggy letting it dry out a bit in between watering (RO water). Lighting is whatever happens to come through the east facing window that i place them in. Temps are ambient household temps, approx 21C with a drop at night to about 16 - 17C. Relative humidity in my home is high usually sitting at about 60%. Growing pattern seems to be, arrive at my place looking healthy, put out a new leaf of two within the first week, then turn black starting from the tips and be totally dead within 4-6 weeks. I have tried growing them in a plastic bag to keep the humidity really high but that didn't make a difference. Since I can grow many other sensitive plants in my house I don't think it is the humidity level, best guess would be light levels or maybe over watering. I intend to place my Sarrs outside this year in a large 14" pot once the weather permits and want to try flytraps again, do you think they would do much better in with the Sarrs? I hope I do better and you will get better I killed VFT seed and plants but the key is to keep trying I had seeds come in the mail I sowed them Saturday after getting them Friday Lloyd is considered one of the best growers, I see about 4 seeds from the 20 I sowed and threw the question at Lloyd if he thought like me and some seeds sank and are starting to make roots he said it was possible 3 days and having the possibility of roots already with luck means they will be a good size and healthy BTW I sowed the giant variety of VFT
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