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Post by kiwipete on Mar 18, 2017 3:18:08 GMT -5
Can any one give me some cultivation tip for Ping lutea. It seems happy enough to start flowering. How warm do I need to keep it over winter ? How much water does it need during winter? Thanks in advance. KP.
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Post by jeff on Mar 18, 2017 5:51:28 GMT -5
Bonjour
here in FRANCE I keep all my subtropical US in terra all year.
Lutea, pumila and caerulea do not seem to like ,unlike the other 3 , a substrate too wet, otherwise risk of rot .
I use peat/river sand 30/70 like substrate just slightly wet but with a air hygrometry 70-80% with a good light , 20-22°c
if it flowering , You can self fertilize, good if you have 2 plants cross fertilization would be top.
jeff
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Post by Apoplast on Mar 18, 2017 19:45:03 GMT -5
Hi KP - I grow them like all my other SE Pings. They seem pretty easy if not a bit more light hungry in growth. I'd be super impressed if you could get them more heat than they can take outside in NZ. As for dormancy, I keep them in my garage which sits at about 8-16C all winter depending on how cold it gets outside (it has dropped to 0C in there when the external temperatures were -35C, and this species wasn't too happy about that). I have trouble keeping them dormant longer than about 6 months, but I have a suspicion that's not as much an issue for you as it is for me. Great species. Good luck with it!
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Post by jeff on Mar 19, 2017 4:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by jeff on Mar 19, 2017 5:14:26 GMT -5
an other info
These subtropicals species seem to have a short life span, no more than 2-3 years here , with my growing conditions.
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Post by kiwipete on Mar 20, 2017 23:37:28 GMT -5
Thanks Jeff & Apoplast for the tip & info. KP.
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Post by Apoplast on Mar 21, 2017 14:18:43 GMT -5
Bonjour jeff - Yes, sorry I didn't mean to indicate a real dormancy in the way VFT or Sarracenia have one. I do store them in winter with those species though. And my US warm temperate species always wake up (start growing) too early for my cold climate in spring - though my VFT and Sarracenia do as well. Short lived?! I'd better pollinate mine this year to get seed! My oldest P. lutea is 6 years old. Although my oldest P. lusitanica is also 6 years old, so maybe it's a little unclear. Still, better to be safe. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by RuBisCO on Mar 21, 2017 23:52:09 GMT -5
Could the shorter life span of up to three years relate to a lack of dormancy/seasonal cycle? It just struck me to be similar to VFT behaviour. jeff - is that a possibility? I am quite a novice re: pings
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Post by jeff on Mar 22, 2017 4:49:41 GMT -5
Bonjour
ATOPLAST 6 year for the P.lutea and P.lusitanica .
It surprises me a little, maybe you have conditions of particular culture.
RuBisCO
here P.lusitanica 'in situ' does not have this life span. Here in Sarthe, the life cycle is very short, over a year only (it is called annual, bi or exceptionally tri ,when it is protected by herbs ). It grows rather quickly: rosette -flower - seed and sowing-death in one year,which also explains the amount of seed per capsule ,sometimes it is even immersed in spring. It is a gelive plant that does not make hibernaculae (which explains its short life span) , no dormancy for them , jeff
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Post by RuBisCO on Mar 22, 2017 6:52:41 GMT -5
Great info - thanks
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Post by Apoplast on Mar 25, 2017 6:25:35 GMT -5
Bonjour Jeff - I don't think my cultivation is anything special. That could likely be said of all the plants I grow. For the P. lusitanica, I just keep them very, very wet, and in my highland room so they never experience much heat. I think this avoids their senescence queues from nature. This can be done with other plants that are annual in habitat (though by no means with all of them). Drosera burmannii can be kept alive for years by keeping it warm and wet.
I don't know about the P. lutea. Nothing intentional done there. That might be pure luck.
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Post by jeff on Mar 25, 2017 8:45:45 GMT -5
Bonjour
in europe we do not find P.lusitanica in montain , but along the ocean atlantique coast from Maroc to Ireland ,here it is a Pioneer species
jeff
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Post by Apoplast on Mar 25, 2017 20:58:48 GMT -5
Bonjour Jeff - Oui, je comprends que P.lusitanica ne vivent pas en montagne en Europe. Mais, je les cultive de cette façon parce qu'ils vivront pendant de nombreuses années. Une possibilité dans la croissance des plantes est de reproduire la nature. Une autre option est de faire pousser les plantes afin qu'ils soient aussi heureux que possible. Toutes les plantes ne poussent pas dans la nature dans des conditions où elles se développeraient le mieux. Souvent, les espèces sont poussées à survivre dans des conditions qui ne sont pas idéales. Cela signifie que vous pouvez parfois faire pousser une plante dans des conditions naturelles et ils seront plus heureux que si vous essayez de le rendre plus comme vous le verriez dans l'habitat. À bien des égards, cela est vrai pour la façon dont nous cultivons des plantes carnivores. Veuillez excuser mon terrible français. C'est une combinaison de Google translate et les restes de mon lycée français. Mais je pensais que j'essayerais de toute façon. Cela m'a pris beaucoup de temps à écrire, et je suis sûr que ce n'est toujours pas très bon. **For those who don't speak French (myself included as will be apparent to those who do), essentially I was explaining that I understand that P. lusitanica isn't naturally a highland species, but I grow it that way as a means to keep it living much longer than they can in nature. Then I apologized for my horrific French.
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Post by jeff on Mar 26, 2017 3:04:07 GMT -5
Bonjour
tu t'en sors très bien
You are doing very well
ok for the lutea and lusitanica cultivation.
jeff
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Post by kiwipete on May 18, 2017 5:09:25 GMT -5
Bonjour if it flowering , You can self fertilize, good if you have 2 plants cross fertilization would be top. I have had four flowers on two plants. No luck with any seeds. Do I need to pull the flower apart to pollinate plants by hand ? KP.
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