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Post by Rug on Sept 13, 2007 20:06:03 GMT -5
Just wondering if its too late to repot my flytraps. I need to get them in bigger pots with different medium and was wondering if its too late in the year?
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Post by lloyd on Sept 13, 2007 20:24:05 GMT -5
I would wait till next spring.
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Post by Rick Hillier on Sept 13, 2007 20:48:35 GMT -5
It might be okay to do it just as they go dormant. Won't be too long now
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Post by Rug on Sept 13, 2007 23:00:08 GMT -5
Problem is I have them in 2" pots and I really think that it is hurting the root growth as most of my plants have been on a downward spiral all year that I have in those pots. I wanna put em in a bog garden but its too late for that now I know but I will have to do something before winter I think. Maybe I can put them all in a big planter? Just for the winter so that they wont freeze!
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Post by vraev on Sept 13, 2007 23:17:27 GMT -5
actually I want to do something similar as well. I am just biding my time. I will probably winter them in their own pots for now. Then in april, I will repot them all in the 12 inch self watering pot thingy or maybe even try the outdoors with the adults.
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Post by Rug on Sept 17, 2007 0:09:35 GMT -5
Am I better off to bury my pots in a big plastic "kiddie pool" filled with peatmoss for dormancy or just leave the pots exposed to the elements. I wanted to repot them but that seems like a bad idea as many have said. I just want to try and make sure they don't freeze too bad so it seems like putting the pots into the peatmoss would allow the rhizome to be out of the worst of the elements. I am lacking in any other good ideas. I don't have room in the fridge for that many plants, I'm not sure how cold my root cellar is in the winter, my attic I suppose would be ok but not sure that it is recomended as there is no light at all (not that it needs it). Again a cool windowsill is too small for the amount of plants I have. So leaving them outside is my real only option. I have an aluminum shed that would be cold and protect from wind or the peatmoss pool with plants still in pots with a layer of straw? Please tell me "What option you would use?" I have a lot invested in these things and this is my "Varun" (sry man!) problem and now I know what he goes through! They are all outside right now and its pretty cool out as we had our first spotting of frost last night. (in came all my neps today). Thnx for the advise in advance! ;D
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Post by vraev on Sept 17, 2007 1:40:42 GMT -5
lol! D**n you. jkng. Well! check this out: From the cobraplant.org website: January 2004 January 2004 August 2004 Who says Venus Flytraps can't tolerate freezing temperatures? I guess someone forgot to tell us! We grow our Flytraps outdoors all year round. They go dormant during the winter and come right back each spring. The Flytraps shown above were 6 years old when the photos were taken in January 2004 (left and center) and August 2004 (right).I haven't tried that as well...but...I don't know...VFT's seem pretty strong among all the bog plants and go through the winters pretty well. (as long as the plant is strong). I am going to try the same style of pot outside with the coppertop sarr that flytrap gave me. My current VFT;s... I am yet not sure. I might probably take them back home and put them out in the open as well. OR I might winter them near my window. BUt wait...apparently they can take only short freezes to -7. WHich is bad as for most of the winter the temps are like that here. For that reason....they say that we should mulch them. Check out the cobraplant.org website. They have care sheets.
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Post by Rick Hillier on Sept 17, 2007 9:55:54 GMT -5
Oh No!!! You don't want to mulch your plants - that wouldn't be very good for them... you want to put mulch ON your plants ;D
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Post by vraev on Sept 17, 2007 10:29:14 GMT -5
lol! nice one. lol! yeah....thats what I meant...put mulch on them. well...I was thinking of putting some wood bark after cutting off the sarrs pitchers. I think I will try the brave approach this time as I will have backup plants anyways. I will try and see if I can get them through dormancy outside.
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Post by mabudon on Sept 17, 2007 14:07:17 GMT -5
Again, you HAVE to bury them in something. Pine needles are perfect. You can re-pot VFTs whenever you like, IME, makes very little difference if your conditions are average or better
VFTs will die if they're exposed to too much cold, but under mulch you can expect the temps to stay constant at just below zero in SW Ontario at least.
They realy don't need much more than a chilly window to have a proper dormancy- last year I forgot to put one of my plants to sleep and it nevertheless went dormant (likely cos my house is COLD in the winter, and cos my trays are near a window and the photoperiod of "intense" light changes no mater what I do) and came back and flowered this summer.
So if you're going to try an outdoor dormancy, you really should try to sink the pots into the ground somehows and mulch like crazy- and last but not least, WAIT TIL THE FROSTS ARE GONE before opening it up- I killed off a VFT this spring by forgetting that rule, I get SO excited when the hibernaculae start popping and I am going to be MUCH more careful (and hopefully patient) this year
Nothing worse than killing a plant in the last few days of dormancy
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Post by lloyd on Sept 17, 2007 14:07:29 GMT -5
I don't think light is important. My S. purp & leuc. were in complete darkness all winter & did very well.
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Post by mabudon on Sept 17, 2007 14:09:13 GMT -5
That's exactly right too, Lloyd, Jay does the same
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Post by lloyd on Sept 17, 2007 14:11:52 GMT -5
If Jay does it then it must be right.
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Post by mabudon on Sept 17, 2007 14:17:16 GMT -5
I didn't want to phrase it like that, but that sorta IS what I mean, I ignore his advice only at great peril- mostly cos he laughs and says "told ya" when I report failures caused by bending/ignoring the "rules"- weirdest thing is, out of almost ALL the CP folks I've met, his approach to most cultivation is by far the simplest (tho once you have hundreds of plants it's complicated no mater what you do)
Case in point, simply NOt feeding flytraps to get them to colour up- after a bunch of scientific "theories", the "secret" is to not do ANYTHING lol such an odd hobby this whole thing is
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Post by jay on Sept 17, 2007 15:12:26 GMT -5
lol
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