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Post by eql on Aug 3, 2007 18:44:27 GMT -5
im curious as to why my VFTs do not have bright color... current status: vraevs seedling: med-bright color 1yr: med color 2yr:light B-52: light i know for color you need lots of light... mine are outside, with at least 4 hrs of direct sun (through the can tire g/h) and the rest is partiall shaded through a young tree. ive noticed that my dente seems to have some color, though only on the tiny little hairs (not trigger hairs), and you can really only see it if you look carfully on an angle. this VFT is prob 2yrs? there is also a younger one, 1yr maybe? in the same container that has much darker color (they came in the same pot when i bought it, so i transfered them into the same pot) also, i bought a b-52 from KC about a month ago? it came with beautiful colored traps, and the last forming trap was red, but none of the traps that have begun growing since i aquired it have any color. i always thought that color came with enough sunlight.. but wouldnt they get that being outside!?!?! and why is that the younger plants have color, but the mature ones dont??? any thoughts?? should i move the g/h so that it is in full sun all day/  *EQL* |
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Post by Sawchuk on Aug 3, 2007 18:51:38 GMT -5
my VFTs from KC
i would leave them outside in dirrect sun allday, exspecially during midday when sun is really blasting which gave them very good color i dont think that you can hurt it with to much sun so if your lookin for color then get some real sunlight on them
make sure you keep them in standin water though and dont cover them or your will cook em and the traps will warp and get goo-E n groose lookin
the prob im havin wiht my setup is not all plants like it the same as others so moving your setup may be benifical for some plants but not for others yaknow??
maybe movin them midsummer to intense sun isent such a bright idea, maybe condition them first for that kinda sun unless you dont mind loosin some traps
i dunnooo
good greens you
Sid
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Post by eql on Aug 3, 2007 18:56:42 GMT -5
hmmm... i will have to weigh pros/cons.... the spot with more sunlight is under a pine tree that loves to drip sap (yuck!)... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
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Post by Sawchuk on Aug 3, 2007 19:07:17 GMT -5
do the VFTs individually just get them outta the setup and tray them somewere were they get blasted all day, if your plants are fairly established then i dont think to much sun is an issue give them some color then put them back i believe the color sticks around for a while
much like a tan???
i dunno
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Post by vraev on Aug 4, 2007 0:22:20 GMT -5
I get traps with intense bleeding red colour and sometimes even ooozing nectar. My traps tend to colour up as they mature. Once open...my plants have pale traps...but then after like a week or so...the colour is pretty dark. I will show some pics after august 16th. My b52 cutting has an almost maroon colour. Its insanely dark.
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Post by Sawchuk on Aug 4, 2007 17:54:19 GMT -5
n how do you accomplish this bud??
you holdin out on use??
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Post by eql on Aug 4, 2007 18:33:23 GMT -5
hmmm... its funny, cause the 2 younger plants have more color than the more established ones... hmmm..
on another note - lowblaws had some typical VFTs today, so i bought one that was surprisingly heathly (for a supermarket)... so we'll see if it's color sticks around..
the tanning concept is interesting.... since its the long weekend im going to try letting them 'tan' all weekend.. see what happens!
*EQL*
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Post by eql on Aug 6, 2007 10:14:36 GMT -5
while sitting outside today, studying my VFTs, a thought came to me....
perhaps VFTs must have lots of light while the trap is developing.. perhaps without enough light it never develops the color cells/hairs??
since i grow mine outdoors, we often get weeks of sun, then weeks of overcast, and i noticed that traps that formed while it was sunny got their color much easier once they opened than traps that formed while it was cloudy...
maybe when its cloudy the traps don't develop the special cells/hairs that give it the color? ive noticed that ppl who grow them indoors (assuming they are providing enough light) have all of the traps colored.. which would make sense because they could assure that everyday they had full light, where as outdoors you can't control the light.
i think that if you grow them indoors, and don't have enough light, that you won't get much color on any traps.
but if you grow them indoors with enough light, every single trap will have bright color.
and if you grow them outside, traps that grow while it's sunny have lots of color, and traps that grow while its cloudy won't develop much color...
perhaps when we slowly adjust them to bright light.. its similar to tanning (thx sawchuck)... ppl with fair skin only burn (like traps that didnt develop with light will get sick/die because they arent used to that much light),
ppl who get a base tan then tan really dark are like traps that grow with light, and therefore develop a beautiful tan without burning.
similar to a tanning salon - if you go often and get lots of light, you will develop a base tan that keeps you from burning..
where as if u just suddenly go out in the sun you will get burnt.
therefore i think the key to having brightly colored traps is to ensure they have enough light while the trap is developing, so that it creates the special cells/hairs that are able to 'tan'.
does this make sense to anyone??? anyone care to agree/disagree???
thanks
*EQL*
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Post by vraev on Aug 6, 2007 12:58:36 GMT -5
one more thing though...remember that it depends on the genetics of the plant itself. It also depends upon the "cycle of growth". Plants tend to show max colour at certain times in an year and then be faded in the rest of the time. I seriously dont know how my VFT's started oozing nectar. I have no clue. It just happened. AND its not happening now.  So I am as confused as you are. |
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Post by Sawchuk on Aug 6, 2007 13:23:44 GMT -5
well thatd be a good one to figure out buddy, were they in or out???
i managed to stop the ants form gettin to my setup and now im gettin new traps, im sure i dont hafe to feed it for a while now thats its been gorging on daddy'z and FAT hunny Bees
so im just goin to let it grow and see how many off those traps i can get open for a good pic
I noticed when i started that when the VFT was more submerged or water loged it would create much redder traps on the redragon but smaller, when allowed to dry traps were much larger but wouldent color up for a couple of weeks, but when colorered they would show dark purples and yellows
i can agree with you eql, try rotating your plants i noticed that helps with coloring, my Purple pitcher is gettin a nice purple only on one side its goin to be pretty pretty by the end of summer
Y does everyone have such a hardtime with my lastname???
you think sawchuk is hard its really Sidney Adam Clarke-Sawchuk,
just call me SID or Adam will do
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Post by eql on Aug 6, 2007 14:30:39 GMT -5
lol... sry.... bad spelling...
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Post by Rug on Aug 14, 2007 17:34:44 GMT -5
See i have found that I have lost all the color on my outside VFT's almost all together. Wondering why! Then again I lost all the color on my inside vft's as well. hmmmmmmmm.
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Post by eql on Aug 17, 2007 16:56:54 GMT -5
hmm.. now THATs odd!
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Post by Flytrap on Sept 9, 2007 0:59:35 GMT -5
I've had the same clones (ie. cuttings off an original parent plant) all grown in the same pot with varying amounts of colour. For example, I had sliced up a big mouth and the different plugs of the same plant offered my different amounts of colour! All this despite they were all grown in the same pot (therefore, same lighting, media and water). And here is the big mouth vft ... all plants in this pot originated from the same "bulb";  And here's a pic of a VFT clone (Triffid trap clone) that is usually more green (for me) in colour. Once he was placed into a clay pot... more red colour appeared !?!  |
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Post by vraev on Sept 9, 2007 1:03:03 GMT -5
Vft colour is a very complex phenomenon. I have a plant that showed plain green traps for 8 months and then suddenly all the traps started colouring up. Ihave my B52 which showed very nice colour but then suddenly faded out. It seems seasonal, dependent on stress, growth conditions, media nutriment, temperature etc.
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So I am as confused as you are. 
