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Post by lloyd on Mar 6, 2007 13:25:59 GMT -5
I was thinking of insects but it's hard to imagine missing aphids. Thrips and mites aren't that hard to miss but I find aphids are easy to see wandering about.
Do you remember the plague of asian soybean aphids about 2-3 years ago? Late summer a vast cloud of them covered the whole Toronto area. They were everywhere and the ground was about a cm. deep. Then a second plague of European ladybugs followed eating them and then eating fruit and even biting people.
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Post by mabudon on Mar 6, 2007 13:57:07 GMT -5
That was madness, Lloyd- the worst part for me was the tick-tick-ticking of the little beggars agsints the lights (the ladybugs, we didn't see the aphids here on the south shore- saw it on the news tho, YEEEEECH)
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Post by vraev on Mar 6, 2007 14:38:07 GMT -5
guys....firstly thanks for all the feedback...I appreciate it. I am not saying I want to grow these plants year around....I have tried dromancy before and I have one living candidate which went through it succesfully. Thesingle typical...I took it out of the terrarium with its potting soil....palced it in a small tub with some more soil....decreased the water amount to damp and put it near the window so that it gets air at like 10 degrees or less and natural low dim sunlight from a north facing window for like 3 days before i stuck it in the fridge...it seems to have worked.....considering the other plants which I just directly put into the fridge have all died. Being a science student, I do understand that losses do occur. I guess with a plant like thismy hope is to minimise it and not risk it. BTW...when I got this plant in september...the corm was the size of a fingernail. Now it has grown to the size of the squash ball.  ... I guess I am happy that it has atleast hogged up and taken advantage of the conditions. Remember that this is definately a fresh off TC and 2 months acclaimatised in soil plant. I am NOT going to fight nature... I AM definately FOR choice in doing dormancy to all my temperate plants. I am just letting them get an year of just growth before I do dormancy. Coming ack to aphids....I seriously see NO INSECTS apart from springtails in my terrarium.....the sundews are speckless and there are sundews all over. The pings are also clean. I have looked for mites and see none. The interesting thing once again is the old growth is all fine....the new growth is damaged...so technically something is feasting on the new leaves alone at the corm OR the new leaves for some reason are damaged themselves (kind of like tissue necrosis or auto tissue destructionby the plant). BTW Carl, yeah man! it would be amazing to finally meet sometime. I would love to know what one of the CP veterans see my plants personally and give a verdict based on my conditions and so on. |
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Post by mabudon on Mar 6, 2007 14:49:10 GMT -5
Careful, don't want me to get a swelled head- I am REALLY not even an "accomplished amateur" yet tho- I just post a lot is all  |
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Post by vraev on Mar 6, 2007 18:59:35 GMT -5
Carl, so are you coming this weekend? |
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Post by vraev on Mar 6, 2007 19:00:44 GMT -5
I just post a lot is all I'm gonna catch ya  !!! |
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Post by martin on Mar 6, 2007 20:52:58 GMT -5
I have to agree with Lloyd, you wont even see the mites before your leaves are all deformed. I had that experience myself.
Insects usually attack new leaves because the tissue is softer than the old ones. Its like trying to sink your teeth into a 1 month donut instead of fresh-of-the day donuts...I think you get the idea... Anyway, I would treat your B52 with insecticid soap.
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Post by lloyd on Mar 6, 2007 21:57:40 GMT -5
Not the alkaline soaps though, a really mild one. I prefer the Neem spray recipe except it can set the VFT's back a bit especially at the higher Neem strength.
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Post by vraev on Mar 6, 2007 23:47:51 GMT -5
I have neem oil...however, I don't have all the eukalyptus stuff. But I guess I have to wait for atleast 2 weeks before I can bother with all this....I am pretty deep in work right now. Do u think that is too late...or is it fine?
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Post by lloyd on Mar 7, 2007 0:47:56 GMT -5
I'm still not sure what's going on but eucalyptus oil is available from any health food store and even the local Loblaws.
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Post by vraev on Mar 7, 2007 3:15:06 GMT -5
hmm....I;ll see if there is any available at the campus drug store.
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Post by Rug on May 16, 2007 21:22:08 GMT -5
Just curious, but have u considered the possibility that the insects you fed them (if they were store bought) may have had chemicals or minerals on them? I know that some insect "grows" that I have known have added calcium to their bugs as reptiles and anphibians usually need the calcium suppliment. You may have no other problem at all other than that as we all know how sensitlve VFT's are to these things. I may be way off in left feild here but I guess it may be something to consider.
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Post by insectivore on May 16, 2007 21:25:18 GMT -5
Well Me what I do for my Gecko is Add Calcium Supplement to the crickets and worms only when I feed them... Because I've never seen any bugs with it already on them... But with VFT's you CAN over feed... Cya |
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... I guess I am happy that it has atleast hogged up and taken advantage of the conditions. Remember that this is definately a fresh off TC and 2 months acclaimatised in soil plant. I am NOT going to fight nature... I AM definately FOR choice in doing dormancy to all my temperate plants. I am just letting them get an year of just growth before I do dormancy.
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