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Post by Ray on May 23, 2017 9:47:54 GMT -5
Hey everyone I just wanted to know if these week old pitch could qualify as semi-veinless The old pitches have no veins but then again they are/were fully green from lack of sun(I think) and now burn to hell This plant gets sun from 8am - 6pm direct (+- a hour) and some more indirect light first here is the pitcher on the main rhizome  and here is a pitcher developing on a side shoot (which is sadly bigger than this one)  and here are some old pitchers  also you can see my outdoor sphagnum isnt doing so well.... to be honest I really want to it be somewhat veinless and just want someone else to tell me the plant is in my extremely mini bog with two other sarracenias and a soon to be poor little VFT ~Ray  |
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Post by RuBisCO on May 23, 2017 10:33:15 GMT -5
I can't see pics
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Post by Ray on May 23, 2017 10:43:06 GMT -5
huh...well let me try something tell me if this works now |
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Post by cploverrr on May 23, 2017 11:09:10 GMT -5
nope, juts try putting in a link in the reply
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Post by Ray on May 23, 2017 11:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by lloyd on May 23, 2017 12:45:53 GMT -5
I can see all the pictures.
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Post by WillyCKH on May 23, 2017 22:57:52 GMT -5
Yea, I can see the photos too. It's a nice plant!
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Post by Ray on May 23, 2017 23:02:38 GMT -5
It is a very nice Purp, Purps for the win! too bad both the flowers got stunned and I couldn't pollinate it for seeds....well there is next year I don't know whether to feel betrayed or sad for the photos,  |
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Post by eric on May 24, 2017 7:14:59 GMT -5
The young pitcher of this plant certainly looks like being on the veinless side. Veinless plants may look like f.heterophylla even in full sun, but the growth point is always reddish. Often young pitchers get this pinkish hue and reddish rim as shown in your photo. But veins and red diffusion may still develop. Just wait a few more weeks and you'll know for sure if it is a veinless or semi-veinless purpurea. Semi-veinless plants are not that well defined and cover many different looking plants between veinless plants and dark red plants. Environmental conditions also influence how strongly veins and red colour are expressed. Plants growing on peat (or in fens) get redder than those growing in Sphagnum.
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Post by stevebooth on May 24, 2017 7:19:03 GMT -5
Hi Ray
You can only claim the plant is veinless if it proves to be under optimal or near optimal conditions rather than lack of sun, but given 10 hrs a day sunlight as you suggest, that should be enough to prove it one way or the other. It may prove to be veinless, if not, rather than describing it as semi veined, which is a bit of a misnoma (its either veined or not) perhaps lightly veined would suit.
Cheers
Steve
This post overlapped Erics
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Post by Ray on May 24, 2017 8:04:27 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for the responses!
I understand about claiming the plant being veinless or not. I will just call it a Purp with a nice colour pallet for now.
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Post by Ray on Jun 15, 2017 14:53:15 GMT -5
UPDATE I got bored and wanted to take a few more photos when I came home. I would like to change the title of the post to just Sarracenia Purpurea but theres no edit button well what could you do.  well here they are,  the red colouration vanished and stayed more toward a greenish yellow and here are some of the new pitcher showing that red tinge  |
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