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Post by exoticplantseller on Aug 17, 2016 14:26:07 GMT -5
I know the picture is blurry, but it had the shape size and colour of Utricularia Subulata. Any ideas? It was growing in a very boggy area. I think it is utricularia, just not sure what kind. Thanks for your help.
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Post by eric on Aug 28, 2016 17:40:02 GMT -5
Sorry I can't really help with a photo of that quality. But I'm pretty sure this is not U.subulata.
First of all you may find U.subulata in Southern Nova Scotia, but it is rare elsewhere in Canada. Then it is more of a terrestrial bladderworth so it prefers wet sand rather than ponds with Nymphaea candida. Also the flowers are too big and there are too few of them.
I would expect U.macrorhiza in that habitat
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Post by exoticplantseller on Aug 28, 2016 18:18:26 GMT -5
Thank you, I tried with the picture but they where so tiny and so far from the boardwalk it was hard to focus on them. If you look closely it had a lot of flowers but they are dried and seed pods or something. I don't know much about utricularia, but if this helps you it was pure yellow and near Sudbury.
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Post by eric on Aug 29, 2016 5:10:32 GMT -5
Let's face it. For a reliable ID this is not enough. To ID Utricularia you need details of the flower (especially orientation, size and length of the sporn, orientation of the fruits), details of the growth (floating green shoots or also some transparent shoots that grow in the ground) and details of the traps (number, location and size). You know, there are a few species with yellow flowers in that area. I'd rule out U.minor, U.cornuta, and of course U.subulata. For the remaining species you can go by probability: U.macrorhiza very common U.intermedia common, but flowers are usually hard to find U.gibba is not common and quite small U.geminiscapa very rare U.stygia and U.ochroleuca are rare, very hard to find, leave alone to find in flower
I'm afraid you're not going to get a better ID. You could try to find images of the mentioned species if your eyes and memory are better than your camera. But without being familiar with what you need to look at it might be impossible.
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Post by exoticplantseller on Aug 29, 2016 8:56:43 GMT -5
Let's face it. For a reliable ID this is not enough. To ID Utricularia you need details of the flower (especially orientation, size and length of the sporn, orientation of the fruits), details of the growth (floating green shoots or also some transparent shoots that grow in the ground) and details of the traps (number, location and size). You know, there are a few species with yellow flowers in that area. I'd rule out U.minor, U.cornuta, and of course U.subulata. For the remaining species you can go by probability: U.macrorhiza very common U.intermedia common, but flowers are usually hard to find U.gibba is not common and quite small U.geminiscapa very rare U.stygia and U.ochroleuca are rare, very hard to find, leave alone to find in flower I'm afraid you're not going to get a better ID. You could try to find images of the mentioned species if your eyes and memory are better than your camera. But without being familiar with what you need to look at it might be impossible. Wow! I had no idea there was that much in identifying lol from what I remember and my picture, I didn't see traps. But the way the flowers where and how little there where I think it might be intermedia.
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Post by lloyd on Aug 29, 2016 9:23:03 GMT -5
Habitat pictures are always interesting.
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Post by exoticplantseller on Aug 29, 2016 10:17:14 GMT -5
Habitat pictures are always interesting. They water was so low the lilly pads turned to bog plants haha terrible drought this year.
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Post by eric on Aug 29, 2016 11:31:57 GMT -5
Wow! I had no idea there was that much in identifying lol from what I remember and my picture, I didn't see traps. But the way the flowers where and how little there where I think it might be intermedia. May be, maybe not, or maybe there is also more than one species in that photo. Often you find three or more species of aquatic Utricularia at one site. Next time look also for Utricularia close to the boardwalk. Usually there are loads of plants and only few of them actually flower. You may pull one or two of them out of the muck and gently shake off any sediment/litter/salts within the water in order to inspect them. This way you can already recognize quite a few species, even without getting to the flowers. They'll keep on growing if you leave them floating where you found them after you're finished. Find a key for the species, e.g. here: New England has a similar inventory of species.
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Post by exoticplantseller on Aug 29, 2016 13:28:50 GMT -5
Wow! I had no idea there was that much in identifying lol from what I remember and my picture, I didn't see traps. But the way the flowers where and how little there where I think it might be intermedia. May be, maybe not, or maybe there is also more than one species in that photo. Often you find three or more species of aquatic Utricularia at one site. Next time look also for Utricularia close to the boardwalk. Usually there are loads of plants and only few of them actually flower. You may pull one or two of them out of the muck and gently shake off any sediment/litter/salts within the water in order to inspect them. This way you can already recognize quite a few species, even without getting to the flowers. They'll keep on growing if you leave them floating where you found them after you're finished. Find a key for the species, e.g. here: New England has a similar inventory of species. I will try that next time. No one else wanted to look with me they all wanted to go back to our campsite so I couldn't get a good look lol my family doesn't really like searching for plants lol only me because it's cool to see them in nature not disturbed.
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