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Post by meateater on May 29, 2016 20:34:42 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone know of any pinguicula that can survive Canadian winter outdoors? (Any experiences to share?)
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Post by shoggoths on May 29, 2016 21:42:00 GMT -5
Pinguicula corsica survived outdoor for me in Québec City for two years than all of the sudden, they all died after flowering. Can't say why, I suspect too much rain. Once in hibernacula they seem pretty resilient.
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Post by H2O on May 29, 2016 22:35:44 GMT -5
It really comes down to where you are from.
I've over wintered pretty much every Sarracenia form, Drosera, flytraps and numerous Ping species. I've also over wintered several South African and Australian species of Drosera. But that's mainly because I'm in Victoria.
Check out zone6b.wordpress.com Carl does a good job showing how to grow CP's outside
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Post by jonnybee7 on May 30, 2016 12:17:16 GMT -5
Pinguicula vulgaris grows naturally in Canada. I've seen it in bogs here in Manitoba though I've never tried to cultivate it myself.
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Post by meateater on May 30, 2016 19:24:07 GMT -5
Sounds like the possibility for obtaining pinguicula vulgaris is next to 0
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Post by stevebooth on May 31, 2016 7:21:45 GMT -5
I know P. grandiflora grows native in Switzerland, not sure how their climate compoares with what you get but they reckon they are good to about -15C so you could go lower perhaps with some protection. I'm in the UK and have never had a problem with them outdoors, but we are warmer than you. Chers Steve
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Post by lloyd on May 31, 2016 12:52:00 GMT -5
When plants overwinter outside they are usually mulched and covered with snow so the actual root and ground temperatures are very close to zero C. For uncovered dormancy avoid temperatures below zero C to avoid mushing them. If the temperatures go above 5C during dormancy, arrange for some light and air circulation to avoid rot. This applies to Sarrs/Pings/VFT's. Temperate dews seem to be fine frozen solid.
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Post by meateater on May 31, 2016 19:50:30 GMT -5
(Off topic: Ah ha! That might be why my perennial lilies didn't make it...)
So if you're growing pings outdoor don't you grow them in containers? Is moving them indoors for winter the only choice?
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Post by lloyd on May 31, 2016 20:27:52 GMT -5
You can bury the containers in the soil and mulch them carefully- a good snow cover would be good too. Avoid salt and ground water contamination. I keep mine in my garage with a low temperature thermostat controlling a space heater designed for garages/sheds set to 32F with a differential of 1F so the temps. stay 32-33F for most of the winter. Or you can do the fridge method.
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Post by meateater on May 31, 2016 20:42:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! Garage probably works for me too. The only problem remaining is where to get them
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Post by H2O on May 31, 2016 21:31:08 GMT -5
What exactly are you looking for? I have a couple hundred Sarracenia still for sale as well as flytraps and hardy Pings.
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Post by meateater on Jun 1, 2016 19:56:51 GMT -5
What exactly are you looking for? I have a couple hundred Sarracenia still for sale as well as flytraps and hardy Pings. Didn't know there are carnivorous plants that can survive Canadian winter so I got curious but anyways.... I drooled over your list earlier, it's Canada Post that worries me (currently 6th week and ebay package still no show). Don't wanna go through the fuss just because Canada Post didn't do their job...
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Post by WillyCKH on Jun 3, 2016 17:30:45 GMT -5
What exactly are you looking for? I have a couple hundred Sarracenia still for sale as well as flytraps and hardy Pings. Didn't know there are carnivorous plants that can survive Canadian winter so I got curious but anyways.... I drooled over your list earlier, it's Canada Post that worries me (currently 6th week and ebay package still no show). Don't wanna go through the fuss just because Canada Post didn't do their job... You don't have to worry too much. Justin sends the plants via xpresspost which has tracking to it; if it is delayed because of the Post office's fault, you can claim a refund on the shipping cost. I have been sending and receiving via xpresspost for many times, the expected shipping date is usually met, only one time was delayed. And there's a slight coverage on the parcel if it gets destroyed, though I'm not too familiar with that.
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Post by paulkoop on Jun 3, 2016 21:27:58 GMT -5
Theres a capensis thats growing from the roots out side i left out there all winter lol But lowermainland didnt get too cold or stay cold for long this year lol
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Post by jonnybee7 on Jun 3, 2016 21:43:11 GMT -5
I grow S. oreophila and another unknown Sar hybrid in an outdoor bog year round here in southern Manitoba. They don't thrive like they would in BC or Ontario, but I've had them growing out there for about a decade. I also had a typical VFT that survived 4 Manitoba winters before it died. I think it's the long winters we have that hurts them, not the cold temps seeing as we get lots of snow.
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