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Post by lloyd on Oct 28, 2015 7:36:25 GMT -5
This is something that the admin. here has made very clear. However it seems to need to be made clearer.
If you're about to enter into a trade, give-away, sale, agreement or buy:
Ask yourself:
Is there any way this could go not according to plan? Would I feel bad if it didn't go according to plan?
If the answer to these two questions is YES:
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!
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Post by lloyd on Oct 28, 2015 8:05:39 GMT -5
Well that was easy, wasn't it? However then the only thing we would exchange is information, which would be limiting.
So what's the answer?
1)Understand yourself-think about how you would feel if the deal went completely wrong. For instance, you lost money, material or plants. Or the other person(s) were angry, ungrateful, frustrated, complaining or vengeful. Can you emotionally handle this? Realistically?
If you can't (and you have to really assess your emotional background), don't do it. Buy things commercially with insurance and safeguards, the same way you would buy a toaster from Costco. The OCPS is not Amazon, it's more like a plant Kijiji.
2)As a follow-up from #1: Know how much you can emotionally or financially afford to lose. Don't go above that limit.
Examples:
-you send $21 and you never get the plant or it gets to you in a state that doesn't seem worth $21 -you give someone a freeby and they complain that they never got it or it wasn't what they expected or they want the stamp/envelope reimbursed because they didn't appreciate the SASE offer. -you send a plant and the other person doesn't send you enough or any money or the trade in return doesn't seem worth what you sent them -the other person flames you or complains about you on the forum or elsewhere -you enter into a commercial or semi-commercial type of relationship and it goes sour
How would you feel if this happened to you?
What if it was $5, $10, $50, $100, a SASE, a valued plant, a common plant with no or little commercial value, a freeby?
In other words, don't do anything that could lead lead to an emotional or financial loss that you couldn't comfortably deal with.
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Post by lloyd on Oct 28, 2015 8:10:59 GMT -5
And of course, if you get into a situation that troubles you emotionally or financially......
Everyone here will feel sorry for you, to a degree. We will be emotionally supportive, to a degree. Beyond that, you have to deal with your emotional loss in your own fashion.
But.........
You have to deal with material/financial losses on your own. Sorry but that's the case.
Let the buyer beware.
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Post by WillyCKH on Oct 28, 2015 10:01:37 GMT -5
At first I thought Lloyd has a "Caveat emptor" plant for sale xD Great tips, it should be a sticky post to remind people
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Post by lloyd on Oct 28, 2015 10:22:31 GMT -5
My first cultivar will be X "Caveat Emptor".
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Post by keeper on Oct 28, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
I bought a Nepenthes x (Caveat Emptor) from Lloyd but it never showed up and now I'm disgruntled and rabble rabble rabble lol
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Post by danyoh on Oct 28, 2015 15:19:19 GMT -5
Oooh seems like I missed some OCPS drama
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Post by morphman on Oct 29, 2015 18:25:34 GMT -5
Haha I was thinking the same thing danyoh.
Thank you for the words of wisdom lloyd.
Cheers
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Post by hermes on Oct 29, 2015 19:11:18 GMT -5
Worst trade I ever did was a six plants for one (supposedly) awesome sounding plant, but the guy packed it so poorly that the growing tip broke off. He kept my six plants, and I got nothing. He tried to compensate me with some non-viable sarr seeds. I would advise people to only trade for plants of similar value.
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Post by paulkoop on Oct 29, 2015 20:31:55 GMT -5
Lol hope someone didnt take me seriously i said ,was "complaining" about a generous member cuz he got me hooked on sundews lol
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Post by danyoh on Oct 29, 2015 20:35:48 GMT -5
Lol hope someone didnt take me seriously i said ,was "complaining" about a generous member cuz he got me hooked on sundews lol Hey man, carnivorous plants are like drugs. Some of us are addicts
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Post by WillyCKH on Oct 29, 2015 23:41:34 GMT -5
I'm too addicted before I even know it... I keep telling myself that this deal is the last one for this year...
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Post by hermes on Oct 30, 2015 8:00:50 GMT -5
One gets hooked on trades very easily. I think the reason is because something fun could arrive in the mail on any particular day. It sure beats getting bills all the time.
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Post by bcmosaic on Oct 30, 2015 15:20:03 GMT -5
I'm in the middle of a transaction and I hope Lloyd's post isn't prophetic.
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Post by lloyd on Oct 30, 2015 20:32:19 GMT -5
The worst I've had here is a package destroyed at customs and one lost in the mail. Both probable outcomes for ~ $15-20 each. I knew it could happen and I was ready to lose the money. That's the mind set you have to have.
Know the risks, minimize them and then accept them.
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