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Post by Syble on Jun 24, 2007 20:07:10 GMT -5
I haven't butchered the pitchers yet to see what they contained, but was quite surprized to see this: Was kind of a coincidence as I've been watering the last couple days and brushing up on my CP books and was seeing picture perfect examples in the book to match my plant.... The thing that surprized me was that the stuff I was reading in my books were saying it was a problem down south... Must admit none of my plants come from down south? Any thoughts? Sib
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Post by vraev on Jun 24, 2007 20:17:28 GMT -5
Hmm....interesting. I know nothing about sarrs,,,but wow.....check it out syb. those 2 pitchers are gone anyways. Try to kill them. I read they eat the pitcher leaves. BTW...that pitcher looks gorgeous. I love how the hood is soo big. nice plant.
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Post by lloyd on Jun 24, 2007 20:42:47 GMT -5
From what I could find Exyra fax is the local species in Ontario and only feeds on S. purpurea. It would be weird if a southern Exyra somehow came to the Windsor area. You might as well take one pitcher apart and see what's in it. If it is Exyra it could really spread.
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Post by insectivore on Jun 24, 2007 21:39:43 GMT -5
Not more Parasites!!! Damn! Is there any in Qc?? Cya
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Post by mabudon on Jun 25, 2007 0:21:43 GMT -5
Hmmm... you talkin about the minor in the background?? Either it's flecked with peat or it's been shot with a gun?? That "burnt throat", I've seen it on my plants sometimes- is it exyra moths (or caterpillars or whatever the heck) for sure, or could it just be some bizarre kind of "indigestion", as it seemd it was on my plants?? Maybe Jay has some input on this......... EDIT Okay, okay the pitchers on the left, the twisted ones , I get it now LMAO I was reading Macphersons book on the way back and just forgot all about that bit Maybe the moths have "graduated"?? It would make sense, I suppose, they somehow figured out there were other plants to use now that some more folks are growing them... Hmmmmm
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Post by Syble on Jun 25, 2007 19:52:50 GMT -5
I think its an oreophilia if memory serves... I'll chop the pitchers tomorrow, it's to late tonight and see what we get. I do have purps in the bog and nothings wrong with them, or any of the other plants for that matter, just the one. Sib
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Post by vraev on Jun 27, 2007 12:51:07 GMT -5
its a shame that this is happening to the plant syb...but as i said...its a wicked looking plant. Hope you can figure out whats wrong with it and hope that its not the moth. we don't want more pests in our CP hobby.
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Post by Syble on Jun 27, 2007 19:06:46 GMT -5
Well I finally got round to cutting them up. the one had a possible exit hole chewed in it, so I may have missed it, other then that, found lots of dead and digested bugs, and 1 live maggot.... Nothing terribly exciting! Sib
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Post by kneedeep on Sept 20, 2007 9:37:53 GMT -5
Dont moth come from plants taken from the wild? slugs are also bad for business.Have you ever ph the rain in your city?were i live it is 9+ this could be a factor.The best person to ask is BarryRice@sarracenia.comAlso i would look into fungus and bacteria.Insects are dirty creatures.Wasps also seem to wreck these.Any of these can destroy the flow of nutrients to the top of the plant .Look into destruction of nutrient pathways.Also i would have grown the maggot to see what it was.Most insect don't reproduce while being digested. sticky
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Post by Rick Hillier on Sept 20, 2007 10:22:57 GMT -5
Does the tissue inside of the pitcher look fresh, or has it been eaten away. Given your proximity to Point Pelee, I wouldn't eliminate the possibility of that moth somehow being in the area... I know that it is a "southern pest", but Point Pelee is on the same latitude as San Francisco, isn't it?
On another note, in my own bog, I've noticed that over time, as the insect debris builds up inside of the pitcher, the tissue of the pitcher seems to degrade or die off (maybe fungus) and all you need is a good wind to blow them over in the middle like that.
The big pitcher on the right looks like that process may be starting... but it's pretty much the end of the year (here anyway) and they've likely done their jobs for the summer.
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