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Post by true424 on Dec 12, 2007 18:46:34 GMT -5
Hi all
It is the perpetual newbie, just a quick question. How long can VTF's be underwater without killing them ?(I do realize not opportune conditions but..) We actually got rain, like an inch and a half in a day (so totally not us) flooded my mini-bog set-ups. Any assistance or sage advice so very welcome!!
Thanks again you all!!
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Post by insectivore on Dec 12, 2007 20:02:28 GMT -5
Hey! Its actualy a good question and not really a newb one either! When you have aphids on VFT's the best cure is putting them completely submerged underwater for up to 48 hrs! I've done it before and it actualy did them some good and got rd of the aphids. However its cold out and if it freezes hardmight not be that good! Hope that helps! Cya  |
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Post by Syble on Dec 12, 2007 21:56:18 GMT -5
I'm wondering the same thing as my bogis under about 2" of water also :S Sib |
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Post by vraev on Dec 12, 2007 23:27:47 GMT -5
DOn't worry....VFT's can live submerged for short periods occasionally. its fine. Don't worry. Bog conditions are pretty wet. Sometimes they can be seen growing on the edges of little pools where CP's are basically totally in the water. Its fine. Check out cobraplant.org as well...notice their guide for growing VFT's. They show how totally BLOCK frozen VFT's can come back beautifully in the spring. Obviously...its only fine for a few days. if the conditions stay frozen like that for months, then you have to take precautions like using a layer of hay or like mulch.
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Post by true424 on Dec 13, 2007 8:31:24 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your replys. I feel abit better. Our freezes here aren't bad (I thnk snow would be better though) but still scarey, I sure hope they will be fine. Thanks again all, I will keep you updatated and check out cobraplant.com also
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Post by Syble on Dec 13, 2007 10:29:20 GMT -5
oh i have a nice thick layer om pine mulch over them, but thats not gonna stop 2-3 r water form laying hehe Sib |
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Post by Rick Hillier on Dec 13, 2007 10:30:45 GMT -5
If your VFT stays underwater long enough, it may change into an Aldovandra Just ignore me... it's only 10:30am at work and it's already been a long week today. |
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Post by sticky on Dec 13, 2007 11:30:49 GMT -5
the only dumb question is an unasked question
sticky
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Post by true424 on Dec 19, 2007 9:03:10 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder Sticky  Humm Folks it is raining again, and like Syble I have mine mulched with a nice thick layer of pine needles, not stopping the rain build up though. I really don't want to put in a drain in, as during the summer I think this would be extremely detrimental. We received over an inch and a half yesterday, so I know they are underwater again. Any advice, calming words, assurances or thoughts would be appreciated. Hum should I try siphoning it off? I guess I cold put a drain in and try and plug it for summer dehydration? Anyhow thanks all. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas all!! |
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Post by Syble on Dec 19, 2007 9:22:56 GMT -5
personally I can't think of how a drain would help me as thats the low spot in the yard and their bound to just get contaminated ground water to come in. Sib |
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Post by vraev on Dec 19, 2007 13:33:16 GMT -5
lol! Don't worry Kelly. You know my VFT seedling tub? Whenever I water....most of the VFT's in there are underwater for a few hours or maybe till the next day when the water level recedes.  Don't worry. www.botany.org/bsa/misc/carn.html |
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Post by sticky on Dec 19, 2007 13:41:22 GMT -5
hey guys  hope this helps with drainage probs: 1. plastic liner 2. 2 inch pvc pipe 3. medium 4.clay pellets 5. root cloth the water drains though cloth into pellets the pvc pipes bring in o2 and helps evaporate the water sorry they only give me crayons but its explanitory sticky ps, doesn't have to be square |
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Post by Syble on Dec 19, 2007 14:22:51 GMT -5
my bogs already like that, cept on a bigger scale, I have Big-O runs the length of itprobably 4" diameter... and river rock. Sib |
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Post by sticky on Dec 19, 2007 16:17:13 GMT -5
syb,
so you have vents?
and root cloth?
plus river rocks and big o
my setup is totally enclosed
no ground water, water goes in ,flows through cloth into clay pellets,the medium and pellets never touch.then as the sun heats it the excess water will evaporate out the vents.
I even put air stones in with the clay pellets.
never had a water problem.
sticky
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Post by Syble on Dec 19, 2007 20:14:08 GMT -5
well basically what I did was dig myself a trench about 3' deep, and 20-25' long, 4-5' wide (just dug what looked right hehe). then in went the pond liner. I ran a 4" Big- O from one end to the other (orriginally planning on a water circulation which I never ended up making).that all got covered up with river stone, probably atleast 6" worth. Then Ran a course of geotextile fabric (we had some left over and hanging round when we built the gabian wall), it lines the bottom and sides. then there is a standard peat pearlite mixt untill the top 2-4" which then switches to peat sand (really not fond of green snow). Both ends of the big o are burried under peat but would be easy enough to get at them come spring. I just didn't end up doing anything with them, and didn't want to leave them exposed with how hot and drying our summers are. Sib |
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