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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 9, 2017 16:26:54 GMT -5
I am enamoured with the several different colours produced by plants within the species, emarginata. I posted pics of an emarginata in bloom ( acquired from Cole). Can any else post pics of their emarginata's with different colours (e.g. darker purple, light & dark pinks, mauve, cream & white, etc...).
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Post by dvg on Feb 9, 2017 16:48:17 GMT -5
KP, it would be interesting to see if your pollinated flowers would produce offspring with some of those different flower color variations.
dvg
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Post by jeff on Feb 10, 2017 2:35:46 GMT -5
see here the rivadavia picture panel for flower emarginata link jeff
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Post by WillyCKH on Feb 10, 2017 3:36:22 GMT -5
see here the rivadavia picture panel for flower emarginata link jeff Love the bottom right photo
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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 10, 2017 13:43:20 GMT -5
Jeff & Willy: That is the exact picture that inspired me to create this thread. I am hoping to collect a variety of plants with the different colour combinations and patterns. I have posted the photo below. The photo belongs to the pinguicula.org author(s). An amazing site that features history, location, cultural attributes of many temperate and tropical species and several common hybrids. Well worth visiting.
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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 10, 2017 13:56:23 GMT -5
DVG:
That's a great idea!
I have to be very careful as the flower is about 1/3 the size of my 'Tina' and 'Aphrodite'. Not sure I have steady enough hands.
I had originally planned to attempt crossing the pollen of Aphrodite with the emarginata, and the pollen of emarginata with the Tina.
Now your suggestion has thrown a 'wrench' in my plans as I would love to replicate the emarginata. If successful, I would try growing seedlings in two or three different locations (conditions: light and temp) to see if that affects flower colour, shape and size.
Dam! What to do, what to do?
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Post by dvg on Feb 10, 2017 17:19:57 GMT -5
DVG: I have to be very careful as the flower is about 1/3 the size of my 'Tina' and 'Aphrodite'. Not sure I have steady enough hands. Dam! What to do, what to do? Hi KP, yes the emarginata flowers are quite tiny compared to others in the genus. However, if you are able to hold the top two flower lobes securely with your thumb and forefinger, and then pull down on the three bottom lobes with your other hand, removing them completely... ...you will have easy and open access to the reproductive parts of the flower. dvg
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Post by jeff on Feb 11, 2017 3:08:50 GMT -5
Bonjour All these shades of color come from natural taxon , no hybrid to see all the hybrid with a emarginata parent see here link you have the picture to 'Tina' x emarginata jeff
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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 12, 2017 23:31:08 GMT -5
DVG: I have to be very careful as the flower is about 1/3 the size of my 'Tina' and 'Aphrodite'. Not sure I have steady enough hands. Dam! What to do, what to do? Hi KP, yes the emarginata flowers are quite tiny compared to others in the genus. However, if you are able to hold the top two flower lobes securely with your thumb and forefinger, and then pull down on the three bottom lobes with your other hand, removing them completely... ...you will have easy and open access to the reproductive parts of the flower. dvg Thanks dvg. I found similar info on the 'net', but I really appreciate your input... I was less hesitant to try after your advice. I decided to try the crosses with the first emaginata flower. There is a second flower bud developing. I think I will try self pollinating it. I figure the plant should be strong enough to enable both seed pods to develop (if I pollinated correctly and the pollen was viable). Roughly how long before I will know if pollination is successful and if so, how long for ping seeds to develop and become viable? Can you offer any advice re care of plant and seed pod above and beyond regular culture? again, many thanks for the advice!
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Post by lloyd on Feb 13, 2017 10:13:11 GMT -5
Within a few days it will be clear that the flower stalk is not shrivelling and the ovary is plumping out. They are ripe when the pod is dry and cracks open. Before this happens put a tiny plastic bag around the pod or you may lose the (tiny!) seeds.
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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 13, 2017 15:19:42 GMT -5
Within a few days it will be clear that the flower stalk is not shrivelling and the ovary is plumping out. They are ripe when the pod is dry and cracks open. Before this happens put a tiny plastic bag around the pod or you may lose the (tiny!) seeds. Thanks Lloyd Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.
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Post by kawarthapine on Feb 24, 2017 22:50:10 GMT -5
Great news.
It appears that the ovary is now between two and three times it's original size.
Hope the seed proves viable and I get some germination.
I'll post a pic closer to harvesting.
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Post by kiwipete on Mar 3, 2017 4:29:49 GMT -5
Good luck kawarthapine with your cross. I can not add any P. emarginata flower posts as we do not have this ping in NZ yet KP. ,
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Post by dvg on Mar 3, 2017 14:56:22 GMT -5
Sounds good KP. Looking forward to seeing your results and hoping you get the flower variations you were wishing for. dvg
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Post by kawarthapine on Mar 10, 2017 15:02:03 GMT -5
Sowing the seeds this weekend.
You weren't kidding when you said they were small.
Figure I will sow them on a bed of coir (on top of my usual ping media blend.
Fingers crossed!
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