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Post by morphman on Nov 6, 2015 2:11:00 GMT -5
Would love to have you over, but make sure you stay away from the downtown, picture any given zombie movie, but with crackheads instead of zombies, lol. I joke, but Peterborough is pretty horrible by most standards. Next time I'm in that end of the country I'll give you a shout. How bad can it be compared to downtown Edmonton ?? The crackheads are free amusement. Regards Mishaal
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Post by bonfield on Nov 6, 2015 4:23:26 GMT -5
Sounds good. It's pretty bad, I just had to cut off all ties to two of the sketchiest people I've met since moving here. They're lurking around other CP sites at the moment, so I guess they're Terra Forums problem now.
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Post by edwardmelnyk on Nov 6, 2015 11:50:33 GMT -5
It's true, downtown Edmonton is a total amusement to watch
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Post by Apoplast on Nov 6, 2015 17:49:48 GMT -5
Since this thread has moved this way... I'm sure this will show my ignorance of Canada in the wider context, but here we go.
As an American, I feel as though I would be remiss if I didn't ask - how bad can it be, it's Canada right?! You guys are our civilized neighbors to the north. If Canada is going down hill, where am I supposed to threaten to move when things are a circus here in the States? Can someone tell me that? What is this world coming to?
I'll admit I've only been to a few places in Canada (full disclosure, only four really, and not Edmonton or Peterborough). But where I have been, to my eyes, always seems so clean and nice. It's no Compton, Bronx, St. Louis, or Detroit (sadly, all places I have been).
I joke, but I do hope it's not all that bad for any of you in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by bonfield on Nov 6, 2015 18:04:04 GMT -5
That may be how it is represented in many media outlets who have a stake in the public opinion, but after nearly a decade of Harper, we're starting to fall upon the same depths as some American institutions, ie, those of healthcare, the penal system, higher education, environmental protection, Middle East intervention/military oversight, economy, etc. While Canada has good PR, given it's population, it faces many of the same problems, aside from gun control, and is usually ranked just above America on most of it's social priorities. I also tend to be a little bitter on the subject since Peterborough leads the country in many unfavourable statistics, plus I did just get away from two locals the likes of which I hope to never meet again.
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Post by edwardmelnyk on Nov 6, 2015 18:27:39 GMT -5
Yah, honestly Edmonton isn't that bad, although there are its downs. I couldn't speak for Cole about Peterborough, because I've never been there. It's gonna be different in all parts of the country, in my opinion. It's different demographics depending where you are. Ottawa is far more liberal than places like Calgary or Edmonton. Some places in BC are New Democrats. It'll affect places differently. I'm not of voting age yet though, so don't quote me on it.
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Post by bonfield on Nov 6, 2015 18:41:43 GMT -5
I guess the crux of my statements is that we have roughly 10% the population that the US does and as a result, our problems can seem relatively minor. Also, we are often only scoring marginally better than America on global indexes of overall well-being, and have a nearly proportionately significant share of our own social woes.
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Post by Apoplast on Nov 6, 2015 19:44:25 GMT -5
Hi Cole - I certainly don't mean to dismiss the difficulties anyone is going through. You are right, there are fewer people there - indeed fewer in all of Canada than in my home state. Perhaps it is true the lower population makes thing seems cheerier. Anyhow, I certainly didn't mean any offense and I hope none was taken. If it is all the same, I'll go ahead and keep thinking highly of Canada - the Canadians I interact with here certainly don't diminish my feelings on the matter, yourself included.
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Post by bonfield on Nov 6, 2015 19:48:55 GMT -5
No offense taken, most Canadians understand how the population disparity affects perceptions of our two cultures in relativity to one another.
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Post by lloyd on Nov 6, 2015 22:21:16 GMT -5
If you ever think Canada is bad, visit the Bowery in NYC in the heat of the summer, or maybe Harlem at twilight. I also read an article about an entire (small) city in California where everybody is a drug addict.
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Post by edwardmelnyk on Nov 6, 2015 22:25:49 GMT -5
Yah. I think we've got it pretty good here
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Post by bonfield on Nov 6, 2015 22:26:38 GMT -5
Again, relative population is something to consider.
This city is one of the worst to live in in this country when you consider statistical employment, infrastructure flaws, poverty, racially-motivated crimes, our criminal MP, etc.
****Just to avoid libel suits, it was the previous MP who was convicted of election fraud, not the present newly elected MP****
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Post by edwardmelnyk on Nov 6, 2015 22:30:46 GMT -5
Yah, I agree on that Cole.
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Post by hal on Nov 6, 2015 23:42:25 GMT -5
As an American, I feel as though I would be remiss if I didn't ask - how bad can it be, it's Canada right?! I've been to all but 4 states (Louisiana, Alabama, Miss and Fla) and Canada has nothing like the poverty and ghettos that occur in almost every large city in the US. I'm not even talking about New York and Houston and LA! I drove through Syracuse, New York and got lost and feared for my life. There were people living in cardboard boxes under a bridge and banging on my car windows at stop lights. It was as close to some of the sketchy Third World countries I've visited as I've ever seen in the west. Canada has its share of poor areas and addicts, usually in the smaller big cities like Edmonton and Vancouver. But I've never felt unsafe anywhere in the country.
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Post by lloyd on Nov 6, 2015 23:48:06 GMT -5
"But I've never felt unsafe anywhere in the country."
Just try crossing a street in Toronto when some idiot is on their cell phone!
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