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Post by ilikewhatido on Mar 30, 2014 22:52:54 GMT -5
Hi folks, I am new around here and still have a lot to learn. So go easy on me . I will start the thread with a few pictures of my Low Giants. More cultivars will follow so stay tuned. Also I am on a quest to find the elusive G16, please let me know if you have it maybe we can work out a deal or trade. Enjoy! My favourite macro! One of my mother plants in 8 inch pot colouring up nicely towards the end of the growing season last year. Another mature Low Giant that I have for about 3 years. For some odd reason this plant has never divided. The largest trap is just a little under 1.75 last week. I hope it hits 2 this year The same plant from a different angle.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Mar 30, 2014 23:21:02 GMT -5
Those are very cool plants. I saw G16 on offer at FTS. Does it differ from 'Wally' or 'Flaming Lips' in that the growth habit is similar to 'Low Giant'? I'm new to VFT cultivars. I'm still learning about my new 'Red Pablo' - which is getting me hooked on red VFTs...
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Post by ilikewhatido on Mar 30, 2014 23:45:25 GMT -5
Those are very cool plants. I saw G16 on offer at FTS. Does it differ from 'Wally' or 'Flaming Lips' in that the growth habit is similar to 'Low Giant'? I'm new to VFT cultivars. I'm still learning about my new 'Red Pablo' - which is getting me hooked on red VFTs... G16 is no longer available at FTS, Matt said it won't be available till late fall or early 2015 . From what I have gathered, G16 is very similar to Low Giant but with better colouration potential. I am obsessed with low growing giant flytraps with neat rosette haha. I don't know much about Wally but I think Flaming Lips is a very colourful giant clone with a more typical growth habit and dentate like teeth.
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Post by Maiden on Mar 31, 2014 14:26:46 GMT -5
Very nice plants
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Post by Dennis A(cook1973) on Mar 31, 2014 15:06:06 GMT -5
ilikewhatidoIf large traps on a VFT is your thing get a DC XL VFT its gets bigger traps than the B 52 VFT but they will cost a lot since its fairly new I seen them online from $40.00 and up HB sells the B 52 VFT
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Post by ilikewhatido on Mar 31, 2014 19:46:00 GMT -5
ilikewhatidoIf large traps on a VFT is your thing get a DC XL VFT its gets bigger traps than the B 52 VFT but they will cost a lot since its fairly new I seen them online from $40.00 and up HB sells the B 52 VFT DC XL is available at FTS for around 50 bucks. I will probably get it at some point this year. There seems to be a lot of hype behind this particular clone but I am a little skeptical on whether DC XL can produce large traps consistently throughout the year like B52 or Low Giant. I guess I will have to find out myself . My B52 this year has so far produced slightly larger traps than low giants. Unfortunately the colouration has been a little lackluster... I will snap a few pictures this week!
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Post by Devon on Mar 31, 2014 22:59:53 GMT -5
Beautiful specimens!
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Post by ilikewhatido on Mar 31, 2014 23:58:49 GMT -5
Big Mouth, another favourite clone of mine. The trap size is a bit on the small side but I am really loving the colour and growth habit.
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Post by Devon on Apr 1, 2014 1:31:24 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen such a deep red bigmouth flytrap! Almost looks like pink venus it's so dark.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Apr 1, 2014 9:27:08 GMT -5
V. nice, 2 more questions: 1. all natural light or do you supplement - and with what of course ;-) 2. how does BCP Z02/Z06/Z11 clones compare to say, 'low giant'? Have a good one!
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Post by ilikewhatido on Apr 1, 2014 14:41:49 GMT -5
V. nice, 2 more questions: 1. all natural light or do you supplement - and with what of course ;-) 2. how does BCP Z02/Z06/Z11 clones compare to say, 'low giant'? Have a good one! 1. I supplement lighting with LED grow light. I have experimented with bunch of different LED brands. I am not sure about the forum rules for recommending commercial products, but I can PM you the one I currently use and also brands that you should absolutely avoid based on my experience if you want. I grow plants both inside and outside, indoor ones tend to grow much larger and healthier because they don't need to deal with all the elements... 2. I don't know much about Z02 and Z06 but I have seen some very nice pictures of Z11 (BCP calls it their best giant cultivar I think). It seems to be a low growing giant cultivar with wide traps and a very distinctive pinkish /rusty colour on both the traps and petioles (which is quite rare for a green VFT). It's on my FTS order list so I will report back once I get my hands on it.
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Post by dvg on Apr 1, 2014 14:52:27 GMT -5
Those are some great looking VFTs. Thanks for sharing them here and welcome to the forum. dvg
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Post by lloyd on Apr 1, 2014 16:03:12 GMT -5
->I am not sure about the forum rules for recommending commercial products
Everyone wants to know a good product. Feel free to tell us about it.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Apr 1, 2014 16:04:24 GMT -5
V. nice, 2 more questions: 1. all natural light or do you supplement - and with what of course ;-) 2. how does BCP Z02/Z06/Z11 clones compare to say, 'low giant'? Have a good one! 1. I supplement lighting with LED grow light. I have experimented with bunch of different LED brands. I am not sure about the forum rules for recommending commercial products, but I can PM you the one I currently use and also brands that you should absolutely avoid based on my experience if you want. I grow plants both inside and outside, indoor ones tend to grow much larger and healthier because they don't need to deal with all the elements... 2. I don't know much about Z02 and Z06 but I have seen some very nice pictures of Z11 (BCP calls it their best giant cultivar I think). It seems to be a low growing giant cultivar with wide traps and a very distinctive pinkish /rusty colour on both the traps and petioles (which is quite rare for a green VFT). It's on my FTS order list so I will report back once I get my hands on it. Yes, please PM me as much info as you reasonably can! I have a 2nd gen LED light (gifted by Lloyd) but I am seriously considering building one based on the Blackstar units. Just lanning notes now (stream of consciousness) but I'll upload to GitHub and send you a link to the repo. In brief, I want to cover the important photosynthetic peaks (430nm, 460nm, 630nm, 660nm) and I think CPs would benefit from supplementation in the 580nm band but more research needed - this activates anthocyanin and another pigment but it will also give a boost to algae. Your research may help me isolate what is good about the "good" brands vs the others. I am planting my Z02/Z06/Z11 mix tonight. In a few months and with Maiden's techniques I should have some for your inspection - but I'll probably need you or Maiden to tell which are which...
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Post by ilikewhatido on Apr 1, 2014 21:36:25 GMT -5
->I am not sure about the forum rules for recommending commercial products Everyone wants to know a good product. Feel free to tell us about it. Great! I just didn't want to sound like I am trying to promote certain products. In that case I would share my experiences here openly. So first here are a few things I learned about LED in general: - Try to use products with high power LEDs. 3W or 5W ones are the best. They are usually much more expensive but they make your plants colour up like crazy. I have tried lower power LEDs but they just don't quite cut it.
- Avoid using products that don't have sufficient cooling. Surprisingly LEDs actually get very hot, most fanless designs are crap and won't last very long. I bought 3 Su***ine System panels for $150 each after reading a thread at FTS, all 3 of them died after 6 months .. so I would avoid this brand for now.
- Don't use anything that's cheaper than $100. You get what you paid for. I have tried some cheap products and they just make my plants look sickly after a few weeks.
- Plants predominately use blue and red lights (I am sure other bands are useful too but more research is needed). So the ideal wavelength should be around 425nm~475nm and 625nm~675nm respectively. Blue light is good for foliage growth and red is good for flowering.
I would say most grow UFOs are fine as long as long as they have sufficient cooling and the correct wavelength. My current favourite grow light is this by a company called easyhydro. I find this panel provides the best bang for your bucks. I bought 2 of them 2 years ago and they are still kicking with no noticeable light degradation or any other issues (LEDs on cheap products usually either burn out or lose intensity quickly after a few months). This panel also has a switch that allows you to change between flowering and foliage bands which is awesome. The only thing I find annoying about this panel is that the cooling fan in vegetative mode is rather noisy, so think twice if you are sensitive to noise. I Hope this helps. Happy growing ps: canuk1w1, I think you are way more knowledgeable than me. The BlackStar looks like a great blueprint to model after. I don't know much about the 580nm band. Please keep us posted on your grow light project. I would love to know how the 580nm band affects plant growth. I have played with different blue/red ratio but the results were inconclusive. Light intensity seems to be the deciding factor for plant health. I have also tried to grow plants with only blue light, they seem to grow a bit weak...
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