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Post by shoggoths on Sept 9, 2012 19:39:40 GMT -5
Hi gang, This is a pic of my one year old p. Laueana X Gypsicola hybrids. They are the one that can be seen on the upper row. Also, on the left side of the lower row (left of the small perlite line), it is the one I find to have the more gypsi aspect in them. On the lower row far right are P. Laueana X Sumidero I hybrid. At this point they seems to rather look like sumidero ... Thanks for looking ! Shogg
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Post by 31drew31 on Sept 9, 2012 20:07:16 GMT -5
Great stuff Martin! They're looking good.
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Post by shoggoths on Sept 11, 2012 10:01:01 GMT -5
Thank Drew,
I really like the difference between each plants. I'll keep them in high humidity this winter and will hope for some flower next summer !
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Post by Devon on Sept 11, 2012 14:01:26 GMT -5
Wow, they're pretty awesome! I really like the top and bottom left ones.
I'm looking forward to updates!
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Post by shoggoths on May 1, 2013 12:19:29 GMT -5
Ok, here's a quick update. The plant are growing well. They now sit in 4 inches pot. My best Pinguicula Laueana X Gypsicola. It's funny how the leave 'sit' on the media ... Pinguicula laueana X gypsicola par ShoggothsAnd the biggest Pinguicula Laueana X Sumidero I that is flowering: Pinguicula Laueana X Sumidero I par ShoggothsThe flower seems of sumidero type but we'll see soon if it as some laueana features too. Thanks for looking.
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Post by dvg on May 1, 2013 16:47:57 GMT -5
Those have really grown well for you there Shoggs. Nice looking plants. dvg
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Post by shoggoths on May 1, 2013 21:49:52 GMT -5
Thanks DVG.
Those two pings didn't go into 'dormancy' so are much bigger than the other one sown at the same time.
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Post by 31drew31 on May 3, 2013 12:38:35 GMT -5
Nice work raising them to flowering Martin!
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Post by shoggoths on Jun 8, 2013 18:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by hal on Jun 8, 2013 21:25:13 GMT -5
Your p. laueana X sumidero has the shape of a laueana flower and the colour of Sumidero. Neat, I don't think I've seen a ping with a flower quite like that. Your parent laueana flower is quite different than mine. It looks like a reddish moaranensis flower. My laueana flower is brilliant red with convex tips on the petals.
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Post by 31drew31 on Jun 8, 2013 23:18:44 GMT -5
Good job with these Martin!
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Post by dvg on Jun 13, 2013 12:50:22 GMT -5
I have to compliment you on your Pinguicula pollination and hybridization skills Shoggoths.
It is because of your success with pollination and the subsequent seed produced, that I was willing to try my hand at pollinating these plant's flowers.
I have had success with pollinating some of the species types and just recently attempted my first hybrid crossing transferring pollen from P. colimensis onto some of my scented and colored P. agnata flowers.
In the past, I had come across a link or article listing the chromosome numbers of various Mexican Pinguicula species.
With that knowledge, it was possible to know in advance what species might be compatible for crosses producing viable seed.
A link like that would be a great sticky candidate for those of us that are willing to attempt hybrid crossings.
If anyone has a link like that, please post it here or start a new thread with this information, and i'll see if it can be stickied at the top of this board.
dvg
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Post by 31drew31 on Jun 13, 2013 13:29:07 GMT -5
I have seen this article as well dvg, but can't remember where or when I saw it. It was a few years back but Ill take a look this weekend if I find time.
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Post by shoggoths on Jun 13, 2013 20:09:11 GMT -5
Tks Hal and Drew, I think it is a Sierra mixe one. I've done a few search and it looks like it a lot (yellow dot and leave shape). As you can see below, the crown really looks like a laueana, we should trade our type. Perhaps your is CP 1 or 2. Pinguicula laueana par Shoggoths, sur Flickr I'm looking forward to your new hybrids DVG. P. colimensis x agnata should be great. I recently harvest ANPA 'A' x moctezumae, I hope the seeds are viable. I rely upon two texts for my attempt but I don't know if they are available on the net, I got them at the university library. The titles are: - Chromosome numbers of carnivorous plants - Chromosome numbers in Pinguicula (Lentibulariaceae): survey, atlas, and taxonomic conclusions Colimensis and agnata are 2n=22 both so you should be Ok.
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Post by lloyd on Jun 13, 2013 23:05:04 GMT -5
Casper, S. Jost and Rosemarie Stimper (2009) Chromosome numbers in Pinguicula (Lentibulariaceae): survey, atlas, and taxonomic conclusions. Plant Systemics and Evolution. 277:21–60
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