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Post by shoggoths on Dec 13, 2011 10:51:09 GMT -5
Hi guys, The RH in my home will drop near 20 this winter so this is the setting I'll use for ping propagation. I think this is near one of the first setting use by Clemens. There is a layer of perlite and a small amount of water in the bottom. Also, there is needle holes in the cover of the box.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 13, 2011 11:04:34 GMT -5
Should work good! Ping pullings are geneally pretty easy as long as they are humid but not soaked.
All the ones I took are about ready to be pulled from the bags and put in their normal media. Hopefully I'll have time to do that this week.
Also I read that you've had some ping seeds sprouting, good work! I am seeing more and more sprouting everyday.
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Post by shoggoths on Dec 13, 2011 11:39:01 GMT -5
Yeah, not a lot at this time. 2/30 on the coffee paper and 1/30 on the vermiculite but they come from my gypsicola X laueana attempt so I'm very happy and it's only been 2 weeks so ... More details to come from my experience when I'll have much more time. Also, I'll sow some of my other seeds again in batch of 30 seeds. I think I didn't sow enough the first time. Ratio didn't seems good. That's great, let me know how it goes. I have also put some osmocote pellets in one of my pulling transplant pot. I'll let you know what will come of it.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 13, 2011 12:30:13 GMT -5
That should be a nice cross! Keep me updated on how they do. At the 2 week mark with my Sumidero 1's I only had 3 that had germinated. Its been about 5 week now, and I have 15 or so that have sprouted, so I would guess you will see more in the upcoming weeks.
Ill be interested to see how it goes with the osmocote, Ive thought about soaking my perlite in a week fertilizer solution before potting my pings.
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Post by shoggoths on Dec 13, 2011 20:14:50 GMT -5
Let's share what come out of this Also, I would have like to add some iron oxyde like Clemens do but didn't manage to find some ...
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 13, 2011 20:20:28 GMT -5
I bought some and didn't find it helped at all. I tried with some Weser, agnata and gigantea. Agnata had no change and weser's leaves got smaller. Repotted them about 2 weeks ago and leaves have returned back to normal size. Color was unaffected in my little experiment.
If you would like to try I can send you some no problem.
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Post by hal on Dec 13, 2011 20:38:05 GMT -5
If you want iron oxide just stick an ungalvanized finishing nail in the pot. It will rust = iron oxide.
Nice to see a few more people growing and experimenting with pings. I just repotted all mine in a mostly mineral mix, and I have some seeds on the way.
Now trying to decide if I should order a bag of gypsum from Home Hardware. It would last me a few decades, I think.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 14, 2011 0:08:37 GMT -5
So had a little time tonight after the hockey game, so got the pullings potted up. My main camera had a dead battery so I just took photos with my phone, which means they are low quality but oh well. P. potosiensis P. moranensis "Caudata" P. moranensis "A" P. gigantea P. moranensis "alba" P. jaumavensis P. Sumidero II Also took a few other photos today of pings that were looking good. P. cyclosecta P. laueana P. Pachuca I believe this is P. moranensis "Caudata" but would have to check the tag. P. gigantea P. 'Weser' P. 'John Rizzi' P. jaumavensis
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Post by lloyd on Dec 14, 2011 14:34:34 GMT -5
31drew31-great plants.
Hal-I've got a box of dolomitic limestone if you want to try some. Should be similar to gypsum for pings. I bought it for lithops.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 14, 2011 22:15:04 GMT -5
Thanks Lloyd. I have been looking for gypsum but havent found any pure stuff in smallish quantities so havent bought any. Ive heard dolomitic lime is similar and is available in 2kg boxes at Home Depot, maybe I will give that a try with some of my small gypsicola. I also just realized I can use petri dishes for ping pullings and stack them easily 4-5 high if I dont use any papertowel like in the bags. I also save space so I dont have to use my extra T5 light. Took a couple pullings tonight to try it out. They are actually bone dry inside, just the outside is wet from misting the neps.
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Post by Apoplast on Dec 14, 2011 23:01:06 GMT -5
Drew - Nice looking pullings! Inspired by your success, I have decided to try a few of my own. Just one species so far. I'm not entirely sure if it will be too cool for them to succeed. But there is only one way to tell.
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Post by hal on Dec 14, 2011 23:06:30 GMT -5
Thanks Lloyd,
I might take you up on that. I ordered some P. colimensis seeds so hope to have one for you by the spring.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 14, 2011 23:45:51 GMT -5
Drew - Nice looking pullings! Inspired by your success, I have decided to try a few of my own. Just one species so far. I'm not entirely sure if it will be too cool for them to succeed. But there is only one way to tell. Thanks, should have no problems, these were kept at 70-75 days, 55-60 nights and I would guess they would be fine at cooler temperatures as well.
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Post by Apoplast on Dec 15, 2011 8:12:25 GMT -5
I hope so. I've got a steady temp of around 12C right now. Probably a little warmer under the lights in the day.
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Post by 31drew31 on Dec 15, 2011 9:44:22 GMT -5
Oh, yes that is quite chilly! Let me know how they do, I still think they will strike but it should be interesting to find out.
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