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Post by brian on Jul 19, 2009 15:46:53 GMT -5
I'm not the greatest at plant ID and here are 4 pictures to illustrate. The first is a plant I received last year which unless I switched the tags was labelled as oreophylla: The second kind of sad looking plant (after a Bancroft winter) came with it and was labelled as flava: The third and fourth plants I received a few years ago and was told at the time that they were flavas: I guess it would make sense that 1, 3 and 4 are oreos because they overwinter well and always flower for me. Any ideas?
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Post by mabudon on Jul 19, 2009 16:08:21 GMT -5
3 suggests flava to me, tho I am prepared to be wrong S.flava seems the toughest southern Sarr up here and that plant looks like a standard "cutthroat" S.flava to me- the flowers suggest that too, but only to my highly untrained eye I'll let experts take over from here
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Post by brian on Jul 19, 2009 18:23:56 GMT -5
Thats interesting Pet, 3 and 4 never went dormant but with the lousey cool summer I can't judge 1 this year. By the way both 1 and 2 received last year, and 3 and 4 received a few years back, came from top notch impeccable sources on this board so I'm sure I've mixed something up on my own. Any experts want to visit my cottage civic holiday to judge? (I supply free beer but bring your own food)
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Post by jay on Jul 23, 2009 19:07:06 GMT -5
Hey Brian ,a way to tell is the area that connects the "hood" to the " picture". On oreo's is wider, while on flava's very narrow .. learned that tide bit from schnells books and personal experience .. 1 3 and 4 are oreo's , 2 not shur, my guess Not too happy plus oreo phyllodia and flava phyllodia are distinct from each other . jay
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Post by jay on Jul 23, 2009 19:10:52 GMT -5
3 on second thought might be flava need a closer look
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Post by brian on Jul 26, 2009 16:20:07 GMT -5
Thanks Jay. I'll watch for phyllodia on all 3 and see what happens.
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Post by barryrice on Aug 8, 2009 22:29:46 GMT -5
Hey Brian, The old "oreophila" vs. "flava" question rears its head often. You got great advice here--look for strongly recurved phyllodia. Unfortunately, sometimes plants--especially ones less than several years old, or ones being grown in somewhat strange conditions--don't produce phyllodia reliably. Then, you're reduced to using a bunch of characters, some already mentione here. My favorites are: 1)The column holding the pitcher lid is broader in S. oreophila. 3)The tendril at the tip of the pitcher is often much longer in S. flava. 4)The flowers of S. flava are often stinky, like cat pee. 5)The pitchers of S. oreophila are often less substantial, and wither away at mid-season. You'll notice my numbering is off. Where's feature #2? I put it here, because it is hard to describe.... 2)On S. oreophila, the center rib of the lid tends to arc more or less uniformly downwards. See, for example, here: And the rest of the hood sort of follows that shape. On the other hand, the midrib of S. flava often has an inflection point, and curves upwards, like below. Most of the time, you have to try to weigh these things and make your best guess. Cheers Barry
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Post by brian on Aug 24, 2009 14:06:13 GMT -5
Just checked in recently - Thankyou Barry, I'll look for these features!
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