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Post by hal on Dec 20, 2008 22:29:33 GMT -5
I'm an experienced gardener and I already have a few "bogs" in my garden for Petasites and Rodgersia. I want to start a CP bog in a sunny sheltered spot in my backyard.
Which plants are hardy in Toronto with a good mulch over the winter?
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Post by brian on Dec 21, 2008 13:10:05 GMT -5
See brian's Bancroft growlist to see what could be tried in Toronto, in the right growing media of course. The list of Sarr crosses was just planted this year so I'll report next summer which of these worked.
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Post by carnivoure12 on Dec 21, 2008 13:12:03 GMT -5
I would say VFT's, temperate dews and sarrs, would be great, they would very well, but just remember they need heavy mulching, if you can provide that there's no problem.
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Post by vraev on Dec 21, 2008 14:40:35 GMT -5
I am currently in hamilton mulching my plants in a "TUB" while leaving them out on the balcony. The pots are all covered with a 2 inch layer of snow right now. The plants include Darlingtonia californica, Dionaea muscipula, Sarracennia x 'unknown' and actually some Drosera x lakebadgerup. Any of these temperate CPs (apart from that pygmy sundew at the end) should do fine. Mulching depends on amount of media. These plants get dormant as corms during the winter. If you are using a bog... there is a lot of media there to buffer the temperatures. So..I am assuming that a one inch layer of mulch as long as it covers the corm properly is fine. But, there are other bog experts here who actually have bogs...so they can amend or change this idea.
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Post by mabudon on Dec 21, 2008 15:27:54 GMT -5
8" deep is what seems to do best, pine-needles wise, tho if you have solid year-round snow-cover you don't need mulch. Brian has done actual experiments about this sort of thing for the benefit of Canadian CPers. We should maybe do something about presenting that data in a more accessible way actually. D.filiformis ssp. filiformis is a perfect choice for up here, along with our native sundews (D.filiformis DOES grow somewhere down east but it's not widely distributed like the rest of them) , most Sarrs will be fine, P.vulgaris and P.grandiflora will do well. Overall VFTs do NOT perform too well outdoors for some people, even with mulch. I have never grown Darlingtonia so have nothing to say about that, but the above are all plants that I have grown outdoors for a couple years. The real heavy hitters here might have more to add, nobody with a really big-arse bog has chimed in yet
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Post by brian on Dec 21, 2008 16:43:45 GMT -5
I'd just want to warn that on a balcony heat loss occurs from all sides so no matter how much you mulch the core temperature will eventually trend towards the ambient temperature..
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Post by hal on Dec 21, 2008 17:42:42 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Can someone point me to Brian's Bancroft growlist? See brian's Bancroft growlist to see what could be tried in Toronto, in the right growing media of course. The list of Sarr crosses was just planted this year so I'll report next summer which of these worked.
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Post by brian on Dec 21, 2008 18:07:56 GMT -5
Click on grow list topic right above this topic I'm about the third one down
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Post by mabudon on Dec 21, 2008 18:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Hillier on Dec 22, 2008 4:45:41 GMT -5
I have had success with my bog garden for many years (until the hail last summer knocked the crap out of everything) with all sarracenia, VFT, P. vulgaris, And D. rotundifolia, anglica, intermedia and linearis. I have had spotty success with filiformis, as I always got major hibernacula rot in the spring, and for some reason, S. minor and S. purpurea venosa seem a bit on the wimpy side for me anyway. I'm located in Kitchener, Ontario. I'm waiting for spring to see what might have recovered in my bog from the big hailstorm this past summer. Most of the growth crowns on my sarrs were crushed and I'm hoping that some of the parts that were below ground will put out new growth, otherwise, it's retooling time
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