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Post by wides on Dec 2, 2007 20:15:51 GMT -5
Hello all, I just recieved a shipment from Jim Straus, aka Jimscott at Terra Forums and CPUK. Here are a few pics of my new plants.... Honestly I was expecting some leaf pullings, but I ended up with 16 plantlets, here is how they were shipped, pretty freakin brilliant if u ask me; The first dozen; The whole batch; New home, it is an Eclipse 3 gallon, it has a monster crack in the base; New home lit; In our new home; First dozen, 1 in bottom left corner, running to the right and then to the next row up, 12 in top right corner; 18(17), in pot to left bottom of pic, 16 in pot behind thermometer, 14 in bottom left corner of right pot, 15 in upper right corner of right pot; I have to say that the shipping method was ingenius. Previously I had 1 ping, primulifloria. Man I cant wait for these to grow some. The 12 pack is seperated in 1x1 inch squares. 1. P. gracilis 2. P. acuminata 3. P. Aphrodite 4. P. esseriana 5. P. tina 6. P. jaumavensis(sp?) 7. P. titan 8. P. 1713 9. P. reticulata 10. P. agnata x potosciensis 11. P. launea x emarinata 12. P. sethos 13. P. rectifolia(could NOT FIND the specimen for this plant. I will sow the soil in a pot by itself. 14. P. cyclosecta 15. P. agnata 16. P. rotundiflora x hemiepiphytica 18(17). P. moranensis x ehlersiac
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Post by tom on Dec 2, 2007 20:22:53 GMT -5
wow, quite a nice shipment!
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Post by wides on Dec 2, 2007 20:29:14 GMT -5
I was quite surprised and happy with my package.
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Post by tom on Dec 2, 2007 20:37:20 GMT -5
Let us know how they'll turns out
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Post by vraev on Dec 2, 2007 20:37:47 GMT -5
fantastic wides. Great little collection and great packaging + shipment.
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Post by insectivore on Dec 2, 2007 21:22:21 GMT -5
Nice dude! Cya
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Post by vraev on Dec 4, 2007 0:15:10 GMT -5
honestly that is seriously the cutest and the smartest packing I have seen so far. lol! soo nice.
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Post by PingKing on Dec 4, 2007 6:08:18 GMT -5
nice collection
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Post by wides on Dec 5, 2007 19:54:50 GMT -5
Hi all,
I am excited to start out the butterwort side of my collection so far ahead of where I would be with leaf pullings. So far the plants seem to be settling in nicely. The only plantlet that is showing signs of failing is the #6. P. jaumavensis(sp?). The rest look nice and firm and the center of the rosettes are looking like they have new leaves.
V- I actually giggled when I opened up my package and there was this box full of shipping peanuts and all of these balls filled with peat. It was better than when I was a kid and I put my dime in the little machine and got my cheapo smiley face ring.... ;D
wides
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Post by tom on Dec 5, 2007 20:35:07 GMT -5
Expect me to beg for trades in the future lol
just a quick note: i notice that you seemed to have planted the pings in an all peat media. Be aware that some of your plants will perform better in a airier mix (or just keep your media on the 'drier' side). I had a P titan for years without being able to make it grow much.... something like 2 leafs per year... a true shame! then, when i put it in an airier mix and stop watering with the tray method, the plants went from 1" to 8" in a matter of weeks... and flowered! Root anoxia/rot was the problem and although most my pings survive in those conditions, most didn't thrived...
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Post by lloyd on Dec 6, 2007 13:13:22 GMT -5
To add to Tom's post: Some pings need to be dry either between waterings or during dormancy. When peat dries out it can be hard to wet again. The water either rolls off or goes right through cracks to the bottom without properly wetting. The airy stuff like sand, perlite, etc. helps wet the peat and keeps it from getting hard. I also grow mine in very airy mixes. I think some people actually leave out the peat but I haven't had success with that.
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Post by wides on Dec 7, 2007 10:10:55 GMT -5
Tom- I know from the crappy cellphone pics it looks like they are in pure peat but they are not,(I meant to post my media). The "planter" they are in is about 4 inches deep, about 3 and half of that is full of 3 to 1 perlite and peat, the remaining space is full of food processored LFS. That's why the texture looks so fine. I used lfs because I figured it would encourage root growth. I was hoping to get some silica sand, but have not found it at an affordable price yet. Thank you for the heads up though. ;D No need to beg, just be patient, and I will be happy to share if I can, think they will survive the horrid international shipping, and not get me put in jail for trying to share? Lloyd- I was reading over at the ping world site that he uses a completely mineral substrate(for mexican pings), and I quote; "Media : I use a 100 % mineral media : 2 perlite, 2 vermiculite, 1 small sand (for aquarium), 1 fine white sand, 1 pouzzolane (volcanic lava), 1 aqualit (expansed ceramic for aquarium). The aqualit can be replaced by 1 of pouzzolane. Plants in this media grow slower but have a stronger root system." That is scary to me too. But it obviously works, he's got some pretty pings. You know I caught a thread about keeping them wet all year, here; www.cpukforum.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t16816.html. Mr. Clemens seems to be pretty knowledgeable about the mexican pings, pings in general.......what do you guys think of keeping them wet all year? I know that there are some pings that do not like being keep to wet, and are susceptible to root rot..... but as general rule what do you think? wides
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Post by tom on Dec 7, 2007 10:19:12 GMT -5
I tried all mineral media too, and had mixed results. Some did poorly, and when i got disease problem in my collection, they resist poorly to it. I went back to more standard media but it worked. One down side is that you have a smaller 'watering window', meaning that the time between being 'dry enough' and water stressed is pretty short... not a good thing for someone which dont have much time to check his plants daily.
About M Clement media: he's a very skillful grower, showing plants color/growth i've rarely seen elsewhere. But before experimenting too much, I would stick with a generally used substrate, and then, once established, growing strong and been multiplied, you'll be able to experiment with more 'controversed' media. I speak of experience, since i was the kind of 'media unsure' switching constantly between media, but stressed plants dont do well anyway and you end loosing more plants than you would originally if you would have sticked with the conventionnal way.
You have to take in account that Joseph is using pretty strong lighting for his plant, which can help the plant to thrive in his all wet conditions.
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Post by lloyd on Dec 7, 2007 12:01:35 GMT -5
I grow my pings in a airy peat/etc. medium in shallow dishes, some plain clay. That way if I overwater at least it will dry out pretty quick. I find my pings have really shallow roots anyway, rarely more than a few mm below the surface.
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