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Post by shoggoths on May 13, 2016 18:50:59 GMT -5
Here's my outdoor set-up. Coming in and out as the temp goes. Take a bit of karma sometime ...  Outdoor Set-Up by Martin Villeneuve, sur Flickr Buying sarr from H2O help a lot to get the set-up doing well. |
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Post by amanitovirosa on May 13, 2016 20:26:21 GMT -5
...yeah, this climate change is a 'real inconvenience'  . My plants have been outside, steady, for close to a month. I'm not sure about my Sarrs, I got them from the Purpman so I think they are fine, hardy, but my Flytraps are cold burned and have seen better days. There's been some very cold nights. 2 degree night lows this weekend, after that it's smooth sailing over here. I am hoping this kind of treatment may harden them up for the years ahead. All the people down in the States getting flooded out and ripped apart by tornadoes are on the gravy train , our world is in deep trouble man! AV. |
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Post by Apoplast on May 13, 2016 20:47:21 GMT -5
Hi Steve - In the UK too?! That seems like it shouldn't happen there. If I recall correctly, you grow quite a few Sarrs. How do you deal with the prolonged frosts. My only defense is hauling them into my garage every night the temperatures dip too low. It's made me consider how many Sarrs I really want to grow.
Hi Sokkos - That's rough man! I am sorry to hear it! We are getting rain/sleet tonight, but not far north of me they are going to be getting snow. With the fluctuations you are seeing you must be in Manitoba or Saskatchewan - mainly because it sounds like the climate here in Minnesota. Good luck my friend!
Salut Shogg - That's a nice setup! Fantastique mon ami! That is more work to protect from the cold than my ghetto pots sitting in a Rubbermaid tub. My hat's off to you! I think 3 tubs is my limit. I'm going to try to get a few nice clones I like and then, done. Well maybe another one or two... But only for things I can leave out in the winter!
Hi AV - I'm really sorry to hear about your fly traps dude! That sucks! Yeah, between floods, droughts, heat waves, and cold snaps, I could do with a little less CO2 in the atmosphere. Not that my commute or flying helps, but there has got to be a better way!
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Post by stevebooth on May 16, 2016 7:25:38 GMT -5
Hi Steve - In the UK too?! That seems like it shouldn't happen there. If I recall correctly, you grow quite a few Sarrs. How do you deal with the prolonged frosts. My only defense is hauling them into my garage every night the temperatures dip too low. It's made me consider how many Sarrs I really want to grow. Hi apoplast Regrettably yes, its a little more unusual than it used to be, but yes we can get them very late into May. I do grow a fair few sarrs, the majority of which are outside. The short answer is I grow them in large, in ground, bogs having a high mass, but only lightly cover them (so the air can circulate round the rhizomes to reduce mould)with a layer or two of fern fronds and have had them (including VFTs) survive occasional -17C nights. They do freeze solid (at least at the surface) in prolonged frosts but so long as you dont get too many frequent freeze/thaw cycles and the beds arent saturated, they all (generally) come through. The desiccating winds are a problem, probably worse over with you than here, but the wind and frozen solid is very bad news. I tend to loose more to rot than cold, as best I can tell. I too have far too many plants and have recently got rid of some, but at least with keeping the general plants outside all year it does tend to naturally select the more cold hardy plants, which isnt a bad thing for us outside growers. Cheers Steve |
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Post by lloyd on May 16, 2016 9:55:36 GMT -5
My microbogs stayed out the last two nights (2-3C) and the new leaves and flowers seem Ok, although smaller than usual, perhaps due to the cooler spring this year.
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Post by Apoplast on May 16, 2016 20:46:06 GMT -5
Hi Steve - Thanks for the reply! In ground. That would make a difference. I'm not even sure I could get away with that round here. We regularly get to -35C in the winter, with occasional dips below that. I still think buckets are my best option at the moment.
Hi Lloyd - I've been leaving them out if the forecast is 3 or above (as per your advice). It's dipped a little blow that some of those nights, but everything held fine. But with the loss of my Aldrovanda recently, I will definitely still be dragging pots in and out if the weather turns.
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Post by shoggoths on May 17, 2016 8:01:37 GMT -5
I do not only take into account the forecasted temperature. If, with the wind factor, the temperature is expected to get below 5C, I bring the plants inside ...
Last Autumn, I put a pot of extra sarr into the ground. I drained all the extra water and cover it with a hay bale. The pot was freeze solid (but not dry) in Spring. Everything seem dead at the moment but I'll let you know if something come back to life. The depth of frost penetration is at 5 feet here ... It only take an Autumn with less precipitation than normal and everything get freeze solid deep.
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Post by lloyd on May 17, 2016 10:38:48 GMT -5
I have found to my dismay that a solid freeze kills Sarr. rhizomes outright or leads to foci of rot that kill the rhizome in a month or so after regrowth starts.
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Post by Apoplast on May 17, 2016 20:11:40 GMT -5
Salut Shogg - Sounds like you do a lot of moving plants in and out like I do. You are clearly more dedicated than I.  Please do let me know how your experiment comes out! You live in a colder place and I do, so I'll be curious. Hi Lloyd - This is my fear. |
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. My plants have been outside, steady, for close to a month. I'm not sure about my Sarrs, I got them from the Purpman so I think they are fine, hardy, but my Flytraps are cold burned and have seen better days. There's been some very cold nights. 2 degree night lows this weekend, after that it's smooth sailing over here. I am hoping this kind of treatment may harden them up for the years ahead. All the people down in the States getting flooded out and ripped apart by tornadoes are on the gravy train 
Please do let me know how your experiment comes out! You live in a colder place and I do, so I'll be curious.
