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Post by snapperhead51 on Aug 27, 2015 20:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by grackle on Aug 27, 2015 22:30:54 GMT -5
Excellent news for the Drosera world there John. I hope that this goes very well.
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Post by lloyd on Aug 27, 2015 22:34:14 GMT -5
That's amazing, I'm going to try some. Thanks.
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Post by snapperhead51 on Aug 27, 2015 23:37:44 GMT -5
yer you should Lloyd , most drosera are extremely easy to do , from seed ,all these are just from a few seeds , the jar of D.zigzagia will split the seedling up in to more jars and end up the probably thousands later down the track , multiplication rate is massive with all others so they should be the same !
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Post by Apoplast on Aug 28, 2015 22:24:54 GMT -5
Hi Snapperhead - Very nicely done! Always good to see tuberous dews being propagated. You clearly have access to some seed from some populations I am a little jealous of. I'm curious where you were able to source them. Though, I realize that being in Oz probably give you access to many seeds I just couldn't get in the States.
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Post by snapperhead51 on Aug 29, 2015 5:53:51 GMT -5
yes Apoplast, I grow many many different tubers here in my out side grow area , I have access to many rare tubers just 20 min drive from my house, all though there not rare here, there actually in there millions in the wild if u know where to find them , but yes others I can get seed of reasonable easy from other growers or collectors . slight advantage being in the home land and I do a lot of my own seed as well , just harvesting D.lowrie, D. schmutzii , D.macrophylla , D.whaittakeri, ,D.whittakeri ( semi arid form ) , D. ramellosa, D. preafolia , and a few others as well that are not rip yet peltata , auriculata , and forms like that , may get D.zigzagea ,pollination was done but there hard to pollinate.
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Post by grackle on Aug 29, 2015 8:31:55 GMT -5
I have poked around a bit on the net trying to join Aussie Carn Societies for seed access and have been discouraged by outdated sites. Have they largely migrated to Facebook or other gated communities or just faded out? I've resisted using eBay.
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Post by snapperhead51 on Aug 30, 2015 1:30:20 GMT -5
yes hard to get seed from Tubers any where, best i seen is from Germany ,a friend there, a few here in AU but not to many sell the seed fro some reason ?? what seed you after any how ?/
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Post by grackle on Aug 30, 2015 2:52:00 GMT -5
Well for sure getting a tuber is much quicker gratification, but the easy route isn't always an option. I had been thinking that an Aussie Society and forum would make me more aware of what the choices are. (Forums mostly for the crabbing on drawbacks to any species.) Local condition mean that rosette style stand a far better chance. So far I have D. aberrans and D. tubaestylus started up but not showing yet (from cpgeek) and a few woollies. I know that I'd like some red form of the D. ordensis. What is a weed there, the trigger plant, has great foliage. Its flowers are fine bonuses but its foliage is enough for me to want it everywhere. There is brush related to sandalwood. You guys have a whole pile of plants that intrigue me. I'll have to hit up Silverhill for some books but even then I don't know who the trustworthy suppliers are who will take the time to jump through the hoops for the Phyto (and CITIES if needed). The societies would have been solid jump off points I had thought.
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Post by snapperhead51 on Aug 30, 2015 17:45:12 GMT -5
tuber seed will not need any paper work , no cities on cp's here in AU , think all tubers are unlisted as far as i know, far as supplies , there are only a few, ,most have limited supply , ,the actual tuber may be better option , but once again most are limited or hard to get , and the harder to get the more $$ they are , my suggestion for just plain ease it not get some thing that is rare try this email,, dieter_kadereit@yahoo.de you may have some good luck there ,Dieter is a internet friend and sells good tuber seed , we trade .
if you want some seed of what i have available or a few tubers of what i have in available numbers ,i can do a few when they go back to sleep .
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Post by grackle on Aug 31, 2015 5:02:04 GMT -5
Thank you. Figuring out what isn't rare, among plants that are exotic to you, is where the Societies would come in. My health/energy is too variable for me to be comfortable caring for anything scarce. I would like to know when you have tubers available as I'm sure many here will. With bulb seed it is often several years before it is makes a flowering plant. Are the Drosera the same?
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Post by Apoplast on Aug 31, 2015 22:14:45 GMT -5
Hi Snapperhead - Really great selection of species you've got there! Sounds like you grow them out of TC as well. Your D. moorei, does it form dropper roots? I ask because some folks have suggested that they do this only under certain conditions, whereas others have argued that different populations vary in their development. Any observations?
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Post by snapperhead51 on Sept 1, 2015 5:27:02 GMT -5
Hi Apoplast, not sure what you mean by dropper roots , not familiar with this term sorry , I grow a lot more tuber plants out side in my out side grow area than I do in T/c for sure. D. mooorei makes a huge amount of tubers from 1 plant than many other specie that for sure , if you have 1 tuber 3 years later u may have 20 or more plants very easily same with D, mensezii too ,in the right conditions . is that what you pointing too?? or do I have it wrong ?
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Post by Apoplast on Sept 7, 2015 21:57:12 GMT -5
Hi Snapperhead - Sorry for the slow reply. I've been harvesting tubers like a mad man in the past few days (tis that time of year here). Dropper roots are areal roots that extend from the stem and if they reach the ground they'll produce a new tuber. You can see D. moorei doing it on 5th photo in on William Archer's blog. I've heard in this species different populations have different propensities for this, and was wondering about yours. Mine don't, thought I'd see if your did.
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Post by lloyd on Sept 7, 2015 22:02:23 GMT -5
The higher growing pygmies produce these roots too (of course, no tubers!)
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