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Post by dvg on Jun 3, 2014 16:43:22 GMT -5
Last year when some of my Mexi-pings were flowering I took the time to cross pollinate a few of those flowers. One of the plants in flower was this seed grown P. agnata. And its flower It was crossed with this P. colimensis. [/url] And its flower These were the resulting P. colimensis x agnata seedlings with P. colimensis used as the mother. Sown July 28, 2013 And the reverse cross - P. agnata x colimensis with the P. agnata mother providing a bit of color to her seedlings. Sown July 28, 2013 Next up are some crosses made with P. heterophylla used as the father/pollen donor. And its flower P. colimensis x heterophylla still in its bulb-like form. Sown August 7, 2013 P. moranensis x heterophylla with the top seedling just coming out of its bulb, while the lower seedling resumes active growth from a succulent stage that didn't involve retreating back to a bulb. Sown August 15, 2013 P. agnata x heterophylla was the easiest of the three P. heterophylla crosses to keep growing without entering into a succulent form and it doesn't form a bulb. Sown September 4, 2013 All of the above crosses were allowed to dry out for some time and are now being revived with more moisture and hopefully after a few feedings will be growing well again for me. dvg
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Post by roraima on Jun 3, 2014 19:44:23 GMT -5
Spectacular dvg!
I'm always interested to see the differences/similarities between seedlings from the same cross but who originate from different "mothers".
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Post by shoggoths on Jun 3, 2014 19:50:00 GMT -5
Nice job DVG.
It didn't took much time before you got the hand! I usually have much trouble with hairy ping. Can't say why, they don't give pollen or don't give seeds ...
I'm looking forward to the flower those hybrids will give you.
With the help of HaI, I'm now attempting to register one of my hybrid but it is not as easy as I was thinking it would be. Seeing all the VFT hybrids being registered, I at first thought it would be simple...
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Post by hal on Jun 3, 2014 19:56:42 GMT -5
Very impressive, DVG. I'd be interested to see how the heterophylla crosses develop. I have some moctezumae and gypsicola crosses that retain much of the slender-leafed form of the parent but are much easier to grow. They are some of the hardiest pings I have. That agnata has spectacular colour. Any idea where it's from?
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Post by Apoplast on Jun 3, 2014 20:59:45 GMT -5
Hi DVG - So, I'm not a big fan of hybrids, but it is fascinating to see the differences in offspring based on parental line. Thanks for showing those off! I'm with Hal, what is that agnata?!
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Post by dvg on Jun 4, 2014 15:26:48 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Spectacular dvg! I'm always interested to see the differences/similarities between seedlings from the same cross but who originate from different "mothers". Yes, the differences and similarities are sometimes unexpected. Nice job DVG. It didn't took much time before you got the hand! I usually have much trouble with hairy ping. Can't say why, they don't give pollen or don't give seeds ... I'm looking forward to the flower those hybrids will give you. With the help of HaI, I'm now attempting to register one of my hybrid but it is not as easy as I was thinking it would be. Seeing all the VFT hybrids being registered, I at first thought it would be simple... Just self-pollinated some P. kondoi/reticulata and it looks like the attempts took. P. kondoi certainly qualifies as challenging with its very hairy and deep throat access point for pollination. Very impressive, DVG. I'd be interested to see how the heterophylla crosses develop. I have some moctezumae and gypsicola crosses that retain much of the slender-leafed form of the parent but are much easier to grow. They are some of the hardiest pings I have. That agnata has spectacular colour. Any idea where it's from? The P. agnata was seed grown here from a pack of P. agnata seeds by way of BCP. The other siblings also show some coloring, but this one is the darkest of the bunch. Of interest also is that this plant has a scented flower, which smells like a cross between a Sweet Pea and a Lilac flower. I've read that there is a P. agnata 'CSUF' that bears reddish colored leaves and has a scented flower...maybe these two are related. (it can be viewed under P. agnata 'CSUF' on the CP Photofinder site) Or scroll down to P. agnata CSUF in the link below. www.pinguicula.org/pages/plantes/pinguicula_agnata.htmHi DVG - So, I'm not a big fan of hybrids, but it is fascinating to see the differences in offspring based on parental line. Thanks for showing those off! I'm with Hal, what is that agnata?! Hi Apo, I also make species seeds with my plants. I crossed the colored up P. agnata with itself and some of its siblings and a few of the resulting seedlings look very promising. Looking to improve on the darkness of the leaves, possibly the flower, while also retaining the scented flower feature. Plant breeding sure is fun, ain't it? dvg
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Post by Apoplast on Jun 4, 2014 21:22:16 GMT -5
Hi DVG - Awesome! It'll be interesting to see if the dark leaves aganta is effectively homozygous for the trait. Thanks again for sharing!
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Post by alex on Jun 5, 2014 6:43:17 GMT -5
Awesome plants. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by vivgrows on Jun 10, 2014 12:33:05 GMT -5
Spectacular sharp photos and plants. Its interesting that you use lava rock. I find that my ping roots are shallow, and I wonder how I would keep the lava rock sufficiently wet to keep the roots alive.
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Post by dvg on Jun 14, 2014 12:18:33 GMT -5
Hi Vivgrows, I am constantly experimenting with different substrates and media mixes.
The lava has the benefit of drying out quickly if need be.
With mexi-pings, the ideal media is one which does not retain too much moisture for too long causing rot or doesn't stay too dry for too long causing your plants to go into dormancy or succulent growth mode.
Media moisture is a bit of a balancing act, but fortunately, most mexi-pings have a large comfort zone and thus are quite forgiving.
-dvg
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Post by dvg on Oct 25, 2014 11:59:44 GMT -5
These mexi-pings were coming out of dormancy/succulent mode, when they were first shown back in early June, and now some of them are getting ready to return to another seasonal respite. P. colimensis x agnata in a 4" pot. And the reverse cross, P. agnata x colimensis, in a 3" pot. Now, the P. heterophylla crosses: P. moranensis x heterophyllaP. agnata x heterophylla, in a 4" pot. Another seedling of the same cross, P. agnata x heterophylla, outdoors, and the same plant above, shot indoors with the resolution cranked up. And finally, P. colimensis x heterophylla, a plant I had pretty much given up on, as it stayed in dormancy for so long, only just recently, throwing out its first few leaves. dvg
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Post by shoggoths on Oct 25, 2014 12:04:35 GMT -5
Really nice leave color on those pings DVG.
I especially like what looks like hair on the P. agnata x heterophylla.
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Post by Devon on Oct 25, 2014 12:32:50 GMT -5
Love the colours! Neat leaf shape on the P. agnata x heterophylla too.
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Post by hal on Oct 25, 2014 15:19:15 GMT -5
I also like the agnata x heterophyla. Great plants. dvg!
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Post by lloyd on Oct 25, 2014 22:37:19 GMT -5
Beauties. I've got to try the lava rock idea.
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