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Post by Maiden on Jul 12, 2014 21:43:10 GMT -5
Are you a fan? The prices will be higher..
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Post by paulkoop on Jul 13, 2014 3:51:05 GMT -5
Prices will be higher as well as parental permission
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Post by amanitovirosa on Jul 13, 2014 17:17:50 GMT -5
Are you a fan? The prices will be higher.. ...hahaha, still laughing.....
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Post by Maiden on Jul 13, 2014 18:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by Maiden on Jul 14, 2014 16:36:40 GMT -5
Wistuba sell 2 hamata for 75€. I have a friend (martin) who want to know if someone want a hamata and split the bill.(+-38 each). 38€ for a nepenthes hamata from wistuba is a real deal. Also, just to let you know guys, we are a lot over 300€, the shipping will be free
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Post by Avery on Jul 14, 2014 17:38:46 GMT -5
Does anyone grow Nepenthes hamata (Gunung Katopasa)? I'm assuming the plants he's currently selling aren't seed grown, but on Wistuba's website it says "The first few plants we release are seedlings. Every plant is different! Very limited supply."
Does anyone have any input? Of course I would be interested in a seed-grown N. hamata, but I'm confused. I emailed him about it, but no reply... I am growing the Clone 1 hamata, and I'm not sure how big of a difference there is between the Gunung Katopasa and Gunung Lumut form.
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Post by Dennis Z on Jul 14, 2014 17:41:20 GMT -5
Wistuba sell 2 hamata for 75€. I have a friend (martin) who want to know if someone want a hamata and split the bill.(+-38 each). 38€ for a nepenthes hamata from wistuba is a real deal. Also, just to let you know guys, we are a lot over 300€, the shipping will be free I might be tempted to split the bill for a hamata. When are you ordering?
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Post by Maiden on Jul 14, 2014 18:03:38 GMT -5
Avery: I got one last november, and i talked a bit about it with andreas. From what he said, all the hamata are from seeds, growed invitro. Mine are seedlings for sure, unique genetic. The katopasa is more green and more hairy. I think its the latest discovered hamata. From what i read on wistuba.com, the pitcher is quite different, but still 'hamata style'. A beauty But its very hard to tell because i dont grow that clone. Dennis: i need all the plant listings by next week-end, because i have to check if all the plants are available before andreas left for his expedition, because many of you guys want the same species, and i need all the payments by july 24th, the day i will order the plants at wistuba
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Post by Avery on Jul 14, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -5
Hi Maiden,
I'm confused, what N. hamata are you growing? From what I understand, clone 1, 2, 3, and 4 are just that- clones. Did you purchase the N. hamata, Katopasa? If it is in fact a seed grown hamata, then surely that's quite a deal.
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Post by Maiden on Jul 14, 2014 23:50:29 GMT -5
Sorry, my english is not perfect.
I grow the wistuba clone 1 like you, and another one, from sulawesi, a seed grown plant from a private grower in germany(not wistuba).
Both plant look similar, but the color is not the same. The wistuba clone 1 is reddish/green/black, and my other one is deep dark.
I will take some pictures of both tomorrow, i have to clean my terra.
About the clones lines, from what i understand its simply to keep a tracks of the different plants he collect in the wild. Of course a seeds grown plant cannot be a 'clone'.
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Post by Avery on Jul 15, 2014 0:42:40 GMT -5
Oh interesting. Thanks. That's what I thought- so to be clear, my understanding is that all "Clone 1" plants are genetically identical, and similarly, all "Clone 3" plants are also genetically identical, etc... Now, my question is- are all of the currently offered Katopasa hamata's genetically unique (grown in vitro from seed), or has he run out of the seed grown plants and is instead offering genetically identical clones from location Gunung Katopasa?
I would love to see your two plants when you get a chance!
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Post by Maiden on Jul 15, 2014 17:25:10 GMT -5
Here my hamata wistuba clone 1 Nepenthes hamata by dals009, on Flickr And my sulawesi seedling Nepenthes hamata by dals009, on Flickr Another closer picture from a couple weeks ago Nepenthes hamata by dals009, on Flickr For your specific question, i will ask andreas, because im not 100% sure, but IMHO all the hamata he sell right now are from seeds. So no identical clones, just unique genetics. For example, all the clones 1 are not real clones. Its just to keep a track when all the seeds are from the same plant. But like a said, im not 100% sure, i will ask more info.
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Post by Avery on Jul 15, 2014 19:52:35 GMT -5
Ok, thank you! Do let me know what you discover. I think you may be mistaken, but if I knew for sure, I wouldn't have asked! As far as I know, all of the current N. hamata clones (1-4) are male, and genetically identical (within clone line). EDIT: Nice plants! It'll be nice to compare our clone 1's, as we got them at the same time. This IS a competition
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Post by Maiden on Jul 15, 2014 19:54:20 GMT -5
Yes its possible, we need a lil light on this. But what you said look very logic. We will see with andreas! Thanks for your compliment! Edit: when did you get your hamata c1 ? And yes, its a RACE now We should make a new thread with our periodic c1 pictures Can i see your plant?
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Post by roraima on Jul 15, 2014 23:39:25 GMT -5
You're both doing a terrific job with the hamata Clone 1, but I have to say that Sulawesi seedling looks awesome . Well done
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