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Post by LucST on Dec 11, 2013 11:34:47 GMT -5
It seems that Canada Post has been losing money of late due to a decrease in mail. To save money they are getting rid of their door to door delivery of mail and switching to community mailboxes. This is for urban settings and most rural settings already have the boxes. Also stamps are going up in price from 65¢ to 83¢ if bought in a bundle. Now this will affect most of us since we send a lot of mail between us. SASE will be a bit more expensive but still far far cheaper than buy a plant or seeds. I am not sure about shipping parcels, I'd imagine their price would go up too but I saw no mention of it on the CBC.
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Post by Dennis A(cook1973) on Dec 11, 2013 14:07:21 GMT -5
Already mailboxes here at the post office if you live too far from the post office they have outdoor mailboxes at certian intervals in town, I have a P.O. Box my uncle before he died had a outdoor mail box 5 mins from his house the out door ones are like a giant cabinet of lockable boxes and the back must be opened by the canada post employee with a key, Its the only they have to get the mail in the boxes
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Post by bonfield on Dec 11, 2013 16:25:29 GMT -5
I've only skimmed through the "5 Point Plan" document, but it looks like the parcel compartments of the community mailboxes can be opened by all residents, unlike the smaller lettermail boxes which have individual keys. Does that mean that all parcels are now being protected by "the honour system"?
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Post by labine on Dec 11, 2013 16:29:37 GMT -5
I dont want my orders to sit in the cube of death at + or - 40c. They said they would get rid of 6 to 8000 jobs, im a mail man and im pissed!!!
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Post by Dennis A(cook1973) on Dec 11, 2013 16:42:29 GMT -5
I've only skimmed through the "5 Point Plan" document, but it looks like the parcel compartments of the community mailboxes can be opened by all residents, unlike the smaller lettermail boxes which have individual keys. Does that mean that all parcels are now being protected by "the honour system"? I think your wrong on this one about parcels, here the parcel goes to and is held st the post office and we get a little card informing us that we have a parcel and for example plants are perishable there is a check box next to urgent and we must sign as proof we go it Canada Post will hold it for 10 days then a final notice goes to us then if still not claimed goes back to the sender. unless there will be a new policy enforced by Canada Post.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Dec 11, 2013 16:49:52 GMT -5
I've only skimmed through the "5 Point Plan" document, but it looks like the parcel compartments of the community mailboxes can be opened by all residents, unlike the smaller lettermail boxes which have individual keys. Does that mean that all parcels are now being protected by "the honour system"? I think your wrong on this one about parcels, here the parcel goes to and is held st the post office and we get a little card informing us that we have a parcel and for example plants are perishable there is a check box next to urgent and we must sign as proof we go it Canada Post will hold it for 10 days then a final notice goes to us then if still not claimed goes back to the sender. unless there will be a new policy enforced by Canada Post. If it's the "superboxes" they implemented in the 80s then Bonfield is correct, there is a common parcel compartment. I seem to recall they put the key for the parcel compartment in your box if you have anything in there? After you get your parcel you put the key back in the mail slot. Even if you have a box at your home you can be SOL. My old apartment, they would deliver during the day and sometimes leave stuff outside leaning on the door! Had to hope one of the other tenants saw it and brought it in. I put a note on my box to deliver anything larger than a letter to the variety store but more often than not it was ignored.
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Post by bonfield on Dec 11, 2013 16:50:46 GMT -5
Pascal, I'm very sorry to hear how this may affect you. Hopefully your job will be one of those that are spared. As for the post office losing money, did they take into account how much the economy would suffer from 6-8000 freshly killed jobs?
Cook, I think that it will still be a matter of requesting your preferred delivery options(card or parcel compartment), otherwise the parcel compartments would not be there.
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Post by bonfield on Dec 11, 2013 16:53:42 GMT -5
Greg, if those boxes are like you described, then I can't possibly see this resulting in an increase in incidences of people taking "postal justice" into their own hands, lol.
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Post by labine on Dec 11, 2013 17:03:58 GMT -5
With group boxes, the mail man put the key in your compartment and no one else can take it. They only leave it there if the is no signature required other wise they do an attempt and leave a call for. I would no longer use the no signature option. After 15 days, goes back to sender
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Post by LucST on Dec 11, 2013 17:30:52 GMT -5
These are boxes that they will be using: The two big door on the bottom right left are for packages and they will put key to it into your box, as a few of you have pointed out. And Cole when I had you send my nep and ceph to me at work, this is what it ended up in for a few day in August with no ill effect.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Dec 19, 2013 10:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by shoggoths on Dec 25, 2013 12:31:41 GMT -5
It's pretty bad for mail man like Labine but I must say that we have superboxes here and everything is alright.
The boxes sit under oak trees 5 houses from my own. I have received a lot of plants in them without problem. One of the smaller box is assigned to my home. Everything I should get in my house mailbox go there. When I receive a parcel, the mail guy put a key in my own box so I can open one of the two bigger one. Once I take the parcel, I put the key back in the letter hole on the top of the box. If the big boxes are already full, I get a notice to go to the nearer poste office to retrieve my shipment. It has never happen to me yet but I live in relatively old sector so perhaps my neighbors don't rely much on internet delivery yet.
I prefer to have my stock wait for me in this kind of box rather than on my doorstep.
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Post by LucST on Dec 25, 2013 14:37:35 GMT -5
We have those super boxes too and knock on wood the only complaint is if the main post offices gets mail after mail has been out for distribution that these people had to wait a extra day,this happened to a guy who had Asthma and ended up in the hospital after his medication was delivered a day late and he had a attack. One thing about the delivery here is weather conditions like snow storms, it happened here we got a unexpected storm that gave us so much snow roads were not plowed for a few days just the main roads,which meant the mail carrier could not drive on the side road where some of these boxes are located in turn theses unfortunate people went days with out getting the mail including bills it makes one wonder if this will save money. It makes me wonder how many customers will turn to couriers to send parcels over Post Offices. Getting a 5x9 inch card saying you have a parcel at the main Office and a date to be the last day to pick it up makes more sense to me I just thought of something, what if the superboxes does not have enough boxes for people in that area? and if you have to go to the post office to send a parcel then would it not make more sense to get your mail there too instead of having to go to the post office and then to a superbox for your mail? Canada post did not consider all the factors in my opinion and I think this might cost them more than it saves them. Ok all of these criticisms occur with door to door delivery as well (I believe). The change won't be that drastic (with the exception to the employees and the disabled), I have lived under both systems and like everything, they both have their flaws. Before you ask I don't know which is better. Addressing the guy with Asthma: why would you get meds mailed to you when you are low on your life saving meds? It seems irresponsible and it is not the Can Post's fault. Can Post (like every other postal service) has delays, things get misplaced or forgotten, but in the end they arrive. I don't understand how someone can risk their life and hope that a truck doesn't get a flat, a snow storm doesn't shut everything down, or what not and then blame the Post for being one day late. That all being said I don't know buddies circumstance, and he could have lost all his meds and mailing it could have been the quickest way.
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Post by canuk1w1 on Dec 27, 2013 12:57:12 GMT -5
We have those super boxes too and knock on wood the only complaint is if the main post offices gets mail after mail has been out for distribution that these people had to wait a extra day,this happened to a guy who had Asthma and ended up in the hospital after his medication was delivered a day late and he had a attack. One thing about the delivery here is weather conditions like snow storms, it happened here we got a unexpected storm that gave us so much snow roads were not plowed for a few days just the main roads,which meant the mail carrier could not drive on the side road where some of these boxes are located in turn theses unfortunate people went days with out getting the mail including bills it makes one wonder if this will save money. It makes me wonder how many customers will turn to couriers to send parcels over Post Offices. Getting a 5x9 inch card saying you have a parcel at the main Office and a date to be the last day to pick it up makes more sense to me I just thought of something, what if the superboxes does not have enough boxes for people in that area? and if you have to go to the post office to send a parcel then would it not make more sense to get your mail there too instead of having to go to the post office and then to a superbox for your mail? Canada post did not consider all the factors in my opinion and I think this might cost them more than it saves them. ... Addressing the guy with Asthma: why would you get meds mailed to you when you are low on your life saving meds? It seems irresponsible and it is not the Can Post's fault. Can Post (like every other postal service) has delays, things get misplaced or forgotten, but in the end they arrive. I don't understand how someone can risk their life and hope that a truck doesn't get a flat, a snow storm doesn't shut everything down, or what not and then blame the Post for being one day late. That all being said I don't know buddies circumstance, and he could have lost all his meds and mailing it could have been the quickest way. Agreed, with everything Luke. So well put mate. His circumstances (financial or other) may not have allowed him to keep a few day's supply on hand. But in a climate where you regularly experience major storms one needs to be prepared for at least 2 days shut-in and preferably without power. I was one of the lucky ones and my part of Toronto does not lose power, but over 250000 people were without power for at least a day. I was about to leave for my sister's place on Christmas day and then they lost power for 2 hours - she is about 5 miles form the Pickering Nuclear Plant!
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Post by canuk1w1 on Dec 30, 2013 10:48:07 GMT -5
And that'd explain it. Not really anyone's "fault', just a series of unfortunate circumstances. Just like that freezing rain/ice storm last week - we all knew it was coming but there was really very little anyone could do except wait until it was over, clean up and hope they get the power back soon. Quebec was hit way worse in '98, we cold still walk in our streets.
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