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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 28, 2009 21:05:41 GMT -5
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Post by Devon on Dec 28, 2009 21:34:21 GMT -5
lol that's random! cool! edit I also have a question.. I just hope it isn't too stupid.  Could it possibly be a new mini clone? lol |
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Post by prmills on Dec 29, 2009 10:53:16 GMT -5
Amazing what a plant in stress / change will do
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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 29, 2009 11:36:11 GMT -5
lol that's random! cool! edit I also have a question.. I just hope it isn't too stupid. Could it possibly be a new mini clone? lol Thanks Devon! That's not a stupid question at all. At this point, my guess is that it will grow up and be a normal flytrap, but it could stay small like it is now forever. |
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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 29, 2009 11:37:14 GMT -5
Amazing what a plant in stress / change will do Well, the plant isn't really stressed at all. It's simply been growing conditions that are WAY better than anything it would experience naturally. So my guess is that it figured it had enough surplus energy to try flowering. |
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Post by Rick Hillier on Dec 29, 2009 15:33:21 GMT -5
Maybe you've discovered a new dwarf form of the VFT  Seriously, though... that's absolutely amazing. Something I've never seen before. |
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Post by lloyd on Dec 30, 2009 9:27:56 GMT -5
Most of my VFT's from TC stay small until they are put outside in full sun and extremes of temperature where they rapidly normalize.
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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 30, 2009 20:05:57 GMT -5
Most of my VFT's from TC stay small until they are put outside in full sun and extremes of temperature where they rapidly normalize. That's not been my experience lloyd. The ones I've deflasked stay pretty much the same size until they grow roots and they they take off growing. I mean really take off! Some plants that I grew from seed started in March are already producing 1.5" traps and they are huge plants. They've only been deflasked since September and have been under lights the whole time. Very nice! May I ask, how old is that plant (not actual age because it was in TC, the equivalent age to a seed-grown plant)? That's very awesome, hehe. Oh, it was only in TC for a month before its flask got contaminated and I had to pull it out. I don't know how to estimate the equivalent age of a seed-grown plant. This guy and all the ones that came out with him are about the same size as my 1 year old VFTs. So it may be equivalent to a 1 year old? |
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Post by lloyd on Dec 30, 2009 22:28:47 GMT -5
I've been growing mine from TC in pure LFS inside and when I put them outside it's peat/perlite, so maybe that's the difference. They sure are ultraminiature until they hit the outside world.
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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 31, 2009 0:19:20 GMT -5
Lloyd, see the babies in this photo here: www.flytrapcare.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3551#p35791Those are plants that I deflasked in late September and the photos are from December 19th. Many of the plants I take out of TC are fairly small, but I'd say the majority of them are at least average sized VFTs. |
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Post by lloyd on Dec 31, 2009 9:45:21 GMT -5
Occasionally my TC VFT's fill the jar. Even when they do, the petiole and leaf are at most 2-3 cm. long. Most often they are mixed up clumps of rhizomes and multiple small shoots that I separate and plant in LFS. They grow into super-miniature little VFT's, often with very good colour but small. They very slowly get bigger until as I said, I put them outside and they take off.
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Post by flytrapcare.com on Dec 31, 2009 15:07:41 GMT -5
What are you using for media lloyd?
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Post by lloyd on Dec 31, 2009 20:06:32 GMT -5
TC grade agar, 1/3-1/2 MS, PPM 0.1%, MS Vits full strength, Casein 10 mg./100cc, epibrassinolide 5 ppb., Sugar 3%, distilled water, Vinegar +/- baking soda to pH 5.9.
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Post by dvg on Dec 31, 2009 20:42:21 GMT -5
TC grade agar, 1/3-1/2 MS, PPM 0.1%, MS Vits full strength, Casein 10 mg./100cc, epibrassinolide 5 ppb., Sugar 3%, distilled water, Vinegar +/- baking soda to pH 5.9. Lloyd, you know I have to ask. How do you manage to measure out the five parts per billion of that epi? I'm guessing that you must have much steadier hands and better eyesight than the average man.  |
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Post by lloyd on Jan 1, 2010 13:59:07 GMT -5
I made a scale that can measure down to about 10 mcg. I moved a dustlike particle of epibrassinolide that fell onto my desk, then I got it onto the scale. It weighed 420 mcg. So I diluted it in 50 cc which comes to 8 mcg/cc. Then 0.1 cc is somewhere around 5 ppb. in 100 cc of medium. Easy-peasy.
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Could it possibly be a new mini clone? lol
