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Post by paulkoop on Oct 31, 2015 21:47:39 GMT -5
Im looking for a place to get systemic pesticides for cos for thrips and mealie. Perhaps the products you use. Iv watched the vid sarracenia northwest and they mention some ingredients to look for and i cant seem to find them
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Post by stevebooth on Nov 3, 2015 8:10:05 GMT -5
Try Bayer Provado Cheers Steve
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Post by shoggoths on Nov 3, 2015 15:50:46 GMT -5
I don't think this product is available in Canada. Sorry, can't help. I search a few months ago but end out flooding the plants that had thrips.
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Post by paulkoop on Nov 12, 2015 21:40:30 GMT -5
Anygood?
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Post by lloyd on Nov 12, 2015 22:29:23 GMT -5
Probably bad for bees and maybe toxic generally.
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Post by paulkoop on Nov 12, 2015 22:40:34 GMT -5
Will be used inside too .. I read up on it a bit says its relatively none toxic bUT on the label it says use caution gloves long sleeve shirts and stuff haha
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Post by lloyd on Nov 12, 2015 23:31:41 GMT -5
Bee careful.
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Post by paulkoop on Nov 13, 2015 0:28:45 GMT -5
Lol bee careful No bees will be harmed
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Post by Apoplast on Nov 13, 2015 20:03:49 GMT -5
Hi Paul - I am sure I'll get blasted for this, but look for a product with Dinotefuran as the active ingredient. I've used it under glass and it works on scale, mealy, thrips, aphids, and the new species of whitefly from Asia that is resistant to Imidacloprid. Both are neo-nics but Dinotefuran is newer and far more effective. It's been gentile on all the plants I've tried it on, even plants that have shown sensitivity to Imidacloprid. The only pest it doesn't seem to control well are spider mites. Dinotefuran is also very safe to handle, though a bit expensive.
Here is the caveat: Dinotefuran will kill pollinators! It is known to be translocated into the nectar. So, please do use it with caution. It is systemic and depending on the plant will stay in the system for 3-6 months. That means if you treat a plant this month and want to put it out in May, it could still kill pollinators. For exclusively indoor cultivation, this is an important horticultural tool. However, using it outdoors is morally reprehensible in my view.
I've used many of the biggest, baddest pesticides out there. Always with caution. These days, I am trying to use more neem, and I am going to try Justin's advice I saw here on using eucalyptus oil on spider mites (something no systemic seems to control because of the mites' feeding mode). I absolutely recommend the use of chemicals where called for. My advice is simply to think critically if they are actually called for. Good luck!
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Post by paulkoop on Nov 13, 2015 21:38:21 GMT -5
Yah its just for this mealy infestation And of coarse it wont be used outside Only on the indoor and the soon to be greenhouse i love my bees and am proud of my gardens that attract soooo many bees The expense of this dinotefuran The other stuff is pricy
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Post by hal on Nov 13, 2015 23:09:18 GMT -5
I've just used a Bayer product with Imacloprid to try and combat a mealy infestation that has been plaguing me for 18 months. This summer I put everything outside, sprayed it with soap and bagged it for 2 days before bringing it in and the little buggers still came back. I've tried oil, alcohol, soap and submerging the plants for a couple of days. No luck. I think once they get established in a large collection it is very difficult to eradicate them manually or naturally.
I used a Bayer product with a much lower concentration than yours Paul. Mine was in the fractions of a percent. And then I diluted it about 1:100 with water per the directions. Results are promising so far with no adult-stage mealies spotted in the three weeks since I applied it. Pesticides are a last resort for me, but it was that or toss everything.
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Post by paulkoop on Nov 13, 2015 23:48:17 GMT -5
Yah iv only ever realy used soapy water the minor pests iv had in the gardens arnt bad and the affected plant material is usually nothing so its just some unsightly leaves But with thrips and now some mealies Im leaning towards some stronger stuff I need to check in with a nursery in the city over and see what they have My local nursery is useless And ebay is super expensive cuz the shipping is as much as the product it self ..... And who knows if it will make it across boarder Cuz im pretty sure Canada is stricter than the states lol
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 9, 2016 22:38:13 GMT -5
Is this the ortho people are talking about? Is it safe for sundews? Its ortho max defence i took a closer pic of whats in it . I doesnt mention using it on plants
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Post by lloyd on Jan 9, 2016 22:47:54 GMT -5
Almost anything on sundews is bad, they are supersensitive. Try a little bit on part of a plant you won't miss. It is Rx. 5% for scabies so it should be safe for humans (topically).
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Post by paulkoop on Jan 9, 2016 23:10:45 GMT -5
Almost anything on sundews is bad, they are supersensitive. Try a little bit on part of a plant you won't miss. It is Rx. 5% for scabies so it should be safe for humans (topically). So its the one for plants people keep talking about? Good for mealies too? I wanna spray all my neps cuz i see mealies on some dews and wanna make sure there is nothing on the neps i dont see anything on them but im sure they are there.
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