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Post by amanitovirosa on Apr 6, 2015 22:36:28 GMT -5
...I wish I could start a thread on how to grow 'The King', but I can't! 'Cause nobody's been able to do it! They can put a man on the moon but cannot figure out how to grow an Edulis. Too many variables, almost magical. First person to do it will be a very wealthy man/woman. All hail the King! ps....I will be posting again in this thread when I find one .
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Post by gerry on Apr 7, 2015 0:47:00 GMT -5
Challenge accepted!! Now....to buy a piece of land and pretend i grew them Jokes aside, are they really that hard to grow? Silly me i just always assumed mushrooms crazy, and would grow anywhere.
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Post by lloyd on Apr 7, 2015 19:43:36 GMT -5
It's amazing that things like fungi and parasitic plants that we assume would be hard not to grow can actually be extremely difficult.
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Post by hal on Apr 7, 2015 20:29:02 GMT -5
My parents used to live on 100 acres in Lanark, Ontario. One year my Dad bought a lot of different mushroom plugs and put them in logs and so on around the property. I think he got about a dozen mushrooms in total and he figures they were worth about $10 each!
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Post by lloyd on Apr 7, 2015 20:54:17 GMT -5
I bought one of those mushroom log things at Sobeys. "educational", "easy", "tons of mushrooms". The only thing educational about it is that there is a sucker born every minute.
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Post by amanitovirosa on Apr 7, 2015 20:58:03 GMT -5
...I don't know what your Dad was growing but I'm pretty sure they weren't Boletus Edulis. Years ago when I wanted to grow these, I started doing some research. I tried to get in touch with the head guy (I don't recall his name) of the mycological department at the University of Toronto. After three days of calling I finally got him on the phone and asked him about growing Edulis. He started laughing, seriously, (I was kind of offended), but then he apologized and said that nobody knows how to grow these very prized and delicious muchrooms. My avatar by the way, found last year in the Muskoka forests. Very tasty I must say! Cheers!
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Post by gerry on Apr 7, 2015 21:21:36 GMT -5
So it's not as simple as reproducing its natural environment i guess
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Post by lloyd on Apr 8, 2015 11:49:39 GMT -5
So it's not as simple as reproducing its natural environment i guess That's exactly what nobody knows how to do.
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Post by amanitovirosa on Oct 12, 2015 18:37:26 GMT -5
...this is from my recent trip up north. Unfortunately, it was the only one. You really gotta sneak up on these or else they disappear. Le Roi est Mort (had him with my breakfast), Vive le Roi!!!
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Post by Apoplast on Oct 12, 2015 19:28:40 GMT -5
Hi Amanitovirosa - Sorry to hear there was not much more of a bounty waiting for you. Because misery loves company, I was supposed go in September to find Boletus nobilissimus around here. I don't know how to ID them properly, but I was going to learn. Then my friend was transferred. No mushroom hunting at all! And apparently the place he would go had so many in most years that he was excited to have "two extra arms to carry them all." It was all vert disappointing!
Good luck to you next year!
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Post by amanitovirosa on Oct 12, 2015 19:40:32 GMT -5
...haha, I appreciate your compassion, sorry to hear about your mishap as well. I was up in virgin territory and was hoping for much more. I am sure that if I had gone to some of my known spots I would have done much better. I am not familiar with B. Nobilissimus so therefore I do not collect it. Yes, there's always next year.
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Post by Apoplast on Oct 12, 2015 20:03:24 GMT -5
It might not be as good as "The King", but it's apparently quite common around here. So, abundance might trump perfection. To next year!
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Post by hal on Oct 12, 2015 20:39:29 GMT -5
I was hiking in the back country of Algonquin Park this weekend. You could have filled a truck with the tree ears and there were many mushrooms on the ground, too. If I knew what they were I could have made a nice risotto, but I played it safe and stuck with the freeze-dried chicken and rice.
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Post by troutddicted on Oct 18, 2015 19:58:08 GMT -5
Salutations to all! Shroomheads unite! The reason why most Boletus cannot be grown by us just yet is because they are mycorhizzal mushrooms. They are not pasrasitic ( another group of mushrooms ) but form symbiotic relationships with the tree/shrub via hypae. These hyphae ( mushroom roots ) are long networks/channels that act as transport for water/sugar and are connected to the tree. The tree benefits from this by being supplied water ( the hyphae extend much further than the tree roots ) by the hypae in exchange for carbon (for the mushroom ) in the form of sugars produced by photosynthesis from the tree. Mycelium ( the mushroom underground a.k.a hyphae network ) are quite primitive and cannot process nutrients very well. Two way street and both very beneficial to each other. The mushrooms we pick are the fruiting body for the mycelium to extend its range via spores ABOVE ground unless I find them before they can reproduce. As for this year we had a banner year ourselves however we REALLY nailed the timing of two massive mushroom flushes. Miss it by a couple days and there is nothing bug free left to forage... come two days early and they haven't even popped yet. Sadly the year has come to end and now we await the arrival of morels and dryads in the Spring. Ok time to get back to processing honey's Long live the king! Apparently a rare find - first ever I've found in my 20 years of hunting mushrooms. B. russelli
Chickens for the win - a parasitic saprobe - who knew parasites tasted so good
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Post by lloyd on Oct 18, 2015 21:54:23 GMT -5
There's some thinking that the mycelial network is also a communications system for trees and fungi.
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