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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 22, 2014 17:16:27 GMT -5
I was under the assumption that my Dars were hardend off out of TC into greenhouse, but my othello isn't looking that good so. I recognized the drying out phase like my B52 last year out of TC, funny enough after I put it outside it bounced back with a vengeance but being that is getting to cold out to put my Darlingtonia's outside what am I to do ? All the pitchers are drying up & I'm getting worried it's gonna die, my growing conditions are as follows. - T5HO - plants off to the side 15h cycle - soil/medium - 5:5:1:1:, LFSM:perlite:peat&sand:orchid bark - watering with Distilled water,water temp 10'C - temp 23-26'C - humidity 40-50% root temp 12-15'C i flood the tray 3/4 way up the pot for 15 min couple times a day. Any suggestions on how to bring this baby back would be great !! Thank you !! The one typical Darlingtonia is in the same pot & it looks ok but the othello not so good
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Post by Maiden on Oct 22, 2014 18:03:58 GMT -5
I think your plant struggle because the growing conditions are not good, from my opinion of course.
TC or not, its always a good idea to keep new arrival into 100%RH until you notice new growth.
From my opinion;
-Your watering are too frequent, and the water temperature is too cold. Your darling is in a thermal shock. You have to keep the soil cool with cool air temperatures, not with water.
-Your relative humidity (RH%) is too low by a truck load. I suggest 100%.
-You should add room temperature water twice a week. Dont forget to drain well the media.
The othello on the picture look in a very bad condition. I hope it will bounce back for you but i have a doubt.
I think the important is avoid extremes changes and growing condition, like adding cold water or growing it into a dry place.
Its my 2cents :-)
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 22, 2014 18:25:23 GMT -5
How cool are the roots suppose to be ? I thought they like cold water over the roots wat would you suggest for water temp Thought start at 50F for water ?? Ya funny iv been following instructions
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Post by lloyd on Oct 22, 2014 18:53:56 GMT -5
I agree with maiden. If they are out of TC, they need to be babied. I find they don't need dormancy or cooled roots until they get to small adult size.
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Post by Maiden on Oct 22, 2014 18:57:31 GMT -5
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 22, 2014 20:59:30 GMT -5
I was origally told they were greenhouse but I noticed the drying out like my B52 from tissue Cultre so that's why I persued to find out if in fact they are straight out of cultre
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 22, 2014 21:45:24 GMT -5
So 15-16 degree roots ok
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 23, 2014 0:54:39 GMT -5
I put a dome over the Dars to give it 100% humidity thanks for thT link
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 23, 2014 1:01:53 GMT -5
Actually my mix is 5:5:1:1 LFSM:perlite:sand&peat:bark dose that make a diff,
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Post by Maiden on Oct 23, 2014 8:28:46 GMT -5
Look ok to me. The high RH% will help for sure.
To tell the truth im not the more experienced with darlingtonias, i tryed to help with my limited experience; i only have d.californica seedlings here. They thrive, but they are only seedlings. What i say here is from what i read from better growers and from my very limited experience. Im pretty sure other users here will help you more !
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Post by canuk1w1 on Oct 23, 2014 9:33:53 GMT -5
And on that note... My experience is limited to a new yearling plant, had it less than six months. My front room gets very warm despite the a/c. I gave it the same watering regimen as my other pitcher plants with the occasional ice cube on very hot days/nights. I'm still figuring out how to treat it for dormancy (and I need to get that sorted soon). From what I've seen, it is tricky to grow indoors colder than zone 7 so we are all on the learning curve. Three of us are in 6b but not even hal or lloyd grow these outside -yet.
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Post by lloyd on Oct 23, 2014 10:46:46 GMT -5
I had one that did really well inside with no dormancy for about 2 years, then it just died probably from lack of dormancy/heat stress. I just decided to not grow them as I like sarr's more and I think Sarr's handle the really hot Toronto summers better.
I think that they would do fine with dormancy in my garage. I'm pretty sure they would die on my deck with the hot, sunny weather. I don't want to take the trouble to keep the roots cool.
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 24, 2014 9:42:12 GMT -5
My plan was to grow them indoors untill spring just like Iv done with everything but becaus iv left them with room humidity 50% for a couple weeks should I leave them at that or should I put the dome on ? Cause wouldn't it be wors to put them back to 100% after being at 40-50% i would like to say I wasn't putting blame on anybody, I was just wanting to know why I shouldnt be growing like I was, what I though I was suggested, I know I'm fully responsible for these plants if they die, I got these plants with what I my own knollage any advie is a added bonus, so I apualagise if someone thought I was blaming but I wasnt I was just wanting to know why I shouldn't be growing like I was, thank you to all who has shared & to all who continues too share
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 24, 2014 21:10:36 GMT -5
Sad to say since I put the humidity dome on the grow point died but the typical one has grown a smidge should I dig it up & try to use the stolens ? If I do what do I have to do ? & really when the othello arrived didn't look much better then it looks now.
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Post by H2O on Oct 24, 2014 22:52:07 GMT -5
Just let it be, don't mess around with the plant and let it adjust. Keep the dom on it and don't do anything else.
The worst thing you can do at this point is to change anything.
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