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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 3, 2014 15:02:47 GMT -5
I was wonder if I took burlap, over sarrs & put it over my plants then pine mulch, to lesson the blow of winter, the burlap will allow air movement, rain to penetrate, & protect from frost , has anyone tried, or dose anyone think this is a good idea. I've heard of people just putting there plants against the house & cover with leaves, & they have survived.
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Post by ng on Oct 3, 2014 15:15:36 GMT -5
Burlap will promote moulds from my experience.
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Post by Raymond on Oct 3, 2014 16:27:16 GMT -5
I've been using burlap for 2 winters But I always pour boiling water on the burlap in a container wait for it to cool then place it over the plants. So far pretty good
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Post by ng on Oct 3, 2014 18:08:33 GMT -5
Listen to Ray he knows more about the Sarrs than I do. H20 probably has some great tips too. He over winters a whack of those babies every season.
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Post by Raymond on Oct 3, 2014 18:34:33 GMT -5
Just to add I only started boiling it in the 2nd winter because there was rabbit droppings and bugs living in it in spring.
I don't think burlap is good for seedlings sadly. There is an ice build up to 5cm in some areas in my bog. I might try some of them outside under it but I mostly likely would just dig them up, pot em, and put them by my windowsill
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Post by Dennis A(cook1973) on Oct 7, 2014 13:55:18 GMT -5
I was wonder if I took burlap, over sarrs & put it over my plants then pine mulch, to lesson the blow of winter, the burlap will allow air movement, rain to penetrate, & protect from frost , has anyone tried, or dose anyone think this is a good idea. I've heard of people just putting there plants against the house & cover with leaves, & they have survived. Do not hold me to this if plants die I am stratifying NL Pitcher Plant seeds which grow wild in NL and can handle cold temps and some abuse I slso have Cobra Plant seed germinating which as you know needs a dormancy as plants and was told when that day comes to put them in my shed and a black plastic bag so its shielded against the wind and to some degree cold temps but still enter dormancy,I plan to treat m VFT's the same way for dormancy. Because it can handle it the NL pitchers are staying outside year round
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Post by hal on Oct 7, 2014 21:10:50 GMT -5
Tried my pots against the house with leaves on them last year and lost everything. The two previous winters everything but my H. minor survived in an unheated, uninsulated garage. This year, the pots are going in the garage, surrounded by foam pillows with a heat mat in the "fort" to take the chill off. The more tender stuff is going in the fridge.
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Post by ng on Oct 7, 2014 21:21:59 GMT -5
Im constructing a bunker under the parliament bulding for mine. This first step is for security purposes, squirrels, pfffft good luck boys. Let's see some id.
Secondary precautions include terraformation of the entire sub floor. The 50/50 and R/O needed will be paramount. I may require a decent kickstarter name and support team...
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Post by H2O on Oct 7, 2014 21:30:26 GMT -5
Back to the OP, burlap works to keep frost off but it's going to do nothing for winter insulation. There is very little insulation value to a couple burlap sacks. I use 3 or 4 layers of them to overwinter some of my stuff but I also live in zone 9 where I rarely see negative temperature for more then a day.
Pine needles are the best way to go.
You also need to think about protection more then people growing in bogs as there isn't a large amount of soil to keep the temperatures stable.
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Post by ontariotraps on Oct 7, 2014 22:48:38 GMT -5
Ya my plan was to put a couple feet of needles on top of my pots put a layer of burlap & then put in my garage
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Post by lloyd on Oct 7, 2014 23:09:55 GMT -5
Putting an insulating layer on top of something is only good if there's a heat source underneath. In the case of plants in the ground, the ground is a heat source relative to the cold air. That's why our water pipes don't freeze underground. The garage floor will likely be the same temperature as the air so the insulation (mulch) will not do anything. If you're going to use a garage as a dormancy area, don't bother with mulch/insulation. Buy a cheap electric heater and hook it up to a thermostat to keep the garage at 0C. The plants will be fine and it won't cost much. You can even put a timer so the heater is only on at night to save on electricity.
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