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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 5, 2014 13:19:03 GMT -5
Got 3 cephs from urban bog put them in 50/50 peat sand 6 inch pot, had them outside after potting them up 3 weeks and now brought them in put them under 4 T5HO 6400k bulbs temp 25-30 C', relative hum 50% 18 h light cycle , sitting in q inch water do you think they'll bounce back here is a couple pics Attachments:
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Post by hal on Sept 5, 2014 13:28:15 GMT -5
I find Cephs crash if you look at them funny. And repotting will almost always cause them to shed all their leaves. I think I see some new leaves and a tiny pitcher on the crown on the left so it looks like they're still alive.
They like a light, spongy soil. See ng's recent thread on an authentic Aussie mix. Peat and sand is too heavy. I'd pull off the old leaves and cover them for max humidity. Maybe take them out of the water and just keep them damp.
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Post by vraev on Sept 5, 2014 13:29:03 GMT -5
I think the one on the left should be able to recover. I don't see any "alive" portions on the other two. However, what matters for a ceph is the roots. If you have healthy root stem, it will come back. Don't worry...the ceph I got form urban bog is also in a similar condition. I lost the big pitchers and I just have a healthy root area....so I am positive it should recover. Having also gone through a similar "new" ceph acclimatization phase with a BCP clone, it took almost 2 months to start showing signs of growth/recovery. So be patient with it. Just keep it in a more humid area than where it was. Since a lot of the root connections are lost during repotting/sale, the plants loose their ability to maintain their top growth, which leads to loss in their pitchers/leaves. Its a normal part of the process.
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Post by amanitovirosa on Sept 5, 2014 21:22:47 GMT -5
...I am no expert but have had success with Ceph transplanting and division. I'm not sure that putting them outside right after you got them was a wise choice. After the shock of transplanting, I'm thinking you should have covered them up to increase humidity and brought down the temps at night for at least a couple of weeks to give them a chance to recuperate. Putting them outside right away just exposed them to the elements (I don't know where you are, but I'm assuming it's not Albany, Australia), and after the shock of transplanting and the elements, it appears they are having a hard time recovering. I hope you are able to save your Cephs!
Cheers, Gabriel.
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 10, 2014 22:23:12 GMT -5
Thanks I'm feeling better now
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Post by canuk1w1 on Sept 11, 2014 18:44:04 GMT -5
IMHO they tend to prefer more sand than peat - 2:1:1 sand/LFS/peat is doing well for me in a drier Toronto house. I'd recommend top watering as well. I've seen fierce debate about this but if the mix is at all compromised (e.g. using poor quality sand without acid wash) that could save your plants. Good luck!
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 14, 2014 14:44:33 GMT -5
Just took a look at them with my magnifying glass all 3 have new growth starting so I'm stoaked really slow growing though, I'm wondering though in the picture I put 3 plants in a 5.5 inch pot is that 2 too many ?
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Post by canuk1w1 on Sept 15, 2014 17:32:32 GMT -5
I reckon they'll be fine until the next re-pot unless you hit gold and they explode with growth. Personally, I'd want re-pot them sooner rather than later to a larger container but I'd still wait until they've settled after the last re-pot. My gut instinct is to leave them over the winter and re-pot them in the spring.
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Post by lloyd on Sept 15, 2014 19:19:45 GMT -5
The ICPS has an article this quarter about fire stimulating ceph growth. I'm going to try a bit of smoke granules next time I repot.
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 15, 2014 23:04:22 GMT -5
What you mean smoke granules ?
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Post by amanitovirosa on Sept 16, 2014 18:54:49 GMT -5
...I also received the newsletter, I will be experimenting with real smoke. What a fascinating species!
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 16, 2014 20:01:45 GMT -5
Anybody want to elaborate if you tell me how I'll be willing to try with these baby's ?
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 16, 2014 21:13:47 GMT -5
Relly I know kinda a immature question but for the 4-4foot T5HO 6400 k How close to the bulbs should I have the cephs at ?? Anyone ?
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Post by lloyd on Sept 16, 2014 22:56:08 GMT -5
I had to move my ceph pot around 1.5 to 2' away from the T5HO's as the temps got too high for them.
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Post by ontariotraps on Sept 17, 2014 0:14:05 GMT -5
Ya eh ! That's what I'm at I feel better thanks, had some doubt though, iv read Maidens post & he had them 1-2 inches but I'm guessing he's got somthing cooling his. Do you know where I can find a mature or division of Darlintonia ? Lloyd ?
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