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Post by Maiden on Dec 5, 2014 23:43:42 GMT -5
I change my minds about tequila... I sold the one i had to a local friend, this complex hybrid is a too much variable plant, its very hard to know if someone have a real tequila. Each tequila pictures on google are different lol. So i will forget that plant. Exept the 2 i want to buy next spring(uncinata and sarracenioides) i got all the plants i ever wanted. Im feel very lucky. Like you i guess, your helis growlist is just amazing.
Edit: yes hispida is a great one, you will like it for sure! Do you have a pilosa?
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Post by cory on Dec 5, 2014 23:47:13 GMT -5
I can understand that. It is quite jumbled up.
Sarracenioides is the toughest to grow heli for me uncinata is a piece of cake
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Post by Maiden on Dec 6, 2014 0:33:25 GMT -5
Sarracenioides have some special needs?
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Post by cory on Dec 6, 2014 7:34:21 GMT -5
Sarracenioides have some special needs? Not A different setup it's just very very slow. Slower than my pilosa. It needs to be kept cooler than the others IMO. It don't do nearly as well in intermediate temps as my other heli. I need to check it's growing altitude but I'm quite sure it's probably in UHL territory or at least acts like it. It grows well for me now but the temps are much cooler now than summer. I have 2 of them here a Juvie from AW and a adult from a friend. It's probably my slowest grower but that may be my temps as I don't drop much below 60*F at night and I think this plant would benifit being down into the 50's. Took me about 4 months to get the AW division settled acclimated and growing well again. No doubt you can grow it and grow it well. Just a few observations after only a few months of growing it that's all. I can send you pics if you like.
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Post by Maiden on Dec 6, 2014 13:28:27 GMT -5
Yes if you can!
Also thanks for the infos, i take note. I also found great information on john's website:
-=- Distribution
Heliamphora sarracenioides was discovered on a Venezuelan table mountain of the northern part of Gran Sabana. The population we found is healthy, and consists of many plants. (We observed approximately 200 individual plants, but did not attempt to make an accurate assessment of the total plant population.) Since the population is apparently restricted to a fairly small and isolated area, we believe that it is fairly vulnerable. For reasons of conservation we decided not to present exact data on the location, or disclose what other Heliamphora species are found in the immediate area of Heliamphorasarracenioides.
The question arises instantly, how the lid of H. sarracenioides could have evolved. The pitcher mouth of Heliamphora sarracenioides has an extremely broad lid that is often wider than the pitcher mouth itself; this bears little similarity to the pitcher mouth and lid of any other species in the genus (Maguire, 1978; Steyermark, 1984, 1986; Nerz & Wistuba, 2001; Wistuba et al., 2001; Wistuba et al., 2002). The lids of most other species emerge from a contracted base or are highly reduced while in Heliamphorasarracenioides it directly protrudes from the back of the pitcher. It is not yet clear how the unique lid structure of Heliamphora sarracenioides is related morphogenetically to the lids of other species. As published previously (Wistuba et al., 2001; Wistuba et al., 2002), we base our interpretations of Heliamphora systematics on the structure and shape of the gland bearing pitcher appendage (=lid) as one of the most valuable characteristics in Heliamphora systematics.
All other known Heliamphora species show an interesting dimorphism. Up to a certain age “juvenile” pitchers are produced that show little similarity to the characteristic traps of older and adult plants. The juvenile pitchers of allHeliamphora are generally similar, and are in fact strikingly similar to the pitchers of adult H. sarracenioides plants, both in shape and the glabrous inner wall of the upper pitcher areas. While it is too early to present any definitive conclusions here, we believe that the pitchers ofHeliamphora sarracenioides could in fact represent slightly modified gigantic “juvenile” pitchers, and that Heliamphora sarracenioidescould at least partly have abandoned the dimorphism visible in all other known species ofHeliamophora. It also seems possible that H. sarracenioides represents a very old type ofHeliamphora that does not yet show the typical dimorphism of the other species known so far. We cannot, however, rule out, that the unique pitcher shape might be the result of a special adaptation during the evolution of H. sarracenioides.
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Quite interesting.
The parts who really catch my interest are:
It also seems possible that H. sarracenioides represents a very old type ofHeliamphora that does not yet show the typical dimorphism of the other species known so far.
And:
Since the population is apparently restricted to a fairly small and isolated area, we believe that it is fairly vulnerable. For reasons of conservation we decided not to present exact data on the location, or disclose what other Heliamphora species are found in the immediate area of Heliamphorasarracenioides.
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Post by cory on Dec 6, 2014 16:45:05 GMT -5
Interesting article for sure That may explain it's limited availability. I never see it for sale anywhere besides aw. Never seen one on eBay.
Pictures on their way
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Post by Maiden on Dec 6, 2014 17:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by cory on Jul 20, 2016 6:59:24 GMT -5
I love re visiting these old threads I posted with pics
The plants are huge in comparison to when I originally posted them
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Post by kipply on Sept 15, 2016 19:17:23 GMT -5
Wow that's quite a collection!
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