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Post by H2O on Feb 2, 2016 1:14:52 GMT -5
I'm going to have to convince you to send me a couple of those leaves when they fall off Looking amazing Doug.
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Post by dvg on Feb 3, 2016 19:51:07 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the encouraging words. That's a handsome hybrid, dvg. Ever thought of registering any of them? Have a look at this Barry Rice piece... www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq3960.htmlIn it he recommends waiting at least 5 years before attempting to register a cultivar. And because this cross is such a small sample size, basically only a sample of two, it would be worth the effort to redo this cross once or twice more and see what shakes out of it. Hopefully, a scented flower as well can be coaxed out in a few of the future crosses. dvg
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Post by Apoplast on Feb 4, 2016 14:49:18 GMT -5
If you like the smell of grape popsicles...you'll love this. dvg Hi dvg - Wow, how did I miss this. I guess I have tendency to glance pas hybrid stuff. But, grape soda flowers?! That's fantastic! I've not yet grown the "scented flower" or 'CSUF' P. agnata strain (which I believe are on in the same, correct?), is that what the flowers smell like on that plant too? Of is this artificial grape aroma a characteristic derived from your cross?
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Post by dvg on Feb 5, 2016 16:44:20 GMT -5
But, grape soda flowers?! That's fantastic! Of is this artificial grape aroma a characteristic derived from your cross? Yes, my friend calls that smell "Fake Grape", but of course it is natural, coming from the flower. The scented flower trait comes from the mother of the cross, the P. agnata, which boasts a scented flower along with its pigmented coloring. Not currently growing the two P. agnata strains that you mentioned, so am not able to compare those with this grape scented flower. dvg
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Post by Apoplast on Feb 6, 2016 18:11:41 GMT -5
Hi dvg - The clone I mentioned goes by a couple different names. It has a long history of cultivation, I won't bore you with the details. Interesting your scented agnata is not that strain. I've got a couple questions about it, but I don't want to detract from this very cool thread. I'll PM you.
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Post by dvg on Feb 8, 2016 13:20:32 GMT -5
Hi Apoplast,
The 'Fake Grape' is a cross between P. agnata and P. colimensis.
My P. agnata mother, the colored up, scented flower, (CUSF), came to me by way of some P. agnata seed purchased from BCP.
The colored up leaf traits have been passed on to some hybrids and the scented flower trait has shown up in one hybrid, the 'Fake Grape'.
It's funny that the other scented P. agnata that you mentioned in your PM is dubbed CSUF, short for Cal State University Fullerton.
Might have to change my abbreviation from Colored Up Scented Flower or CUSF, as that is just too close to the CSUF tagging.
dvg
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Post by Apoplast on Feb 8, 2016 15:05:56 GMT -5
Hi DVG - Understood. I realize the "fake grape" is a cross, but presumably it smells fairly similar to the scented parent. Correct?
Interesting you were thinking of using an initialism that was so similar to the university shorthand. I would suppose those letters would be far to frequently transposed. For the sake of clarity, you might want to go with something more distinct.
Did the entire batch from BCP end up having scented flowers, or just the one plant?
If it was the entire batch, and I can find out which seed you purchased, I could ask Kamil where he got his seed from. Thanks!
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Post by dvg on Feb 9, 2016 16:22:08 GMT -5
Hi Apoplast,
The scented seed grown P. agnata (CUSF) parent and its 'fake grape' hybrid offspring have not been in flower at the same time, so that comparison has not yet been made with those two.
The P. agnata seed batch from BCP only yielded one scented flowered clone, and that clone also turned out to be the most pigmented clone of the batch as well.
dvg
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Post by Apoplast on Feb 10, 2016 19:57:44 GMT -5
The P. agnata seed batch from BCP only yielded one scented flowered clone, and that clone also turned out to be the most pigmented clone of the batch as well. Hi dvg - Wow, that's fantastic! What are the odds?! I am gobsmacked! I barely know how to reply. I've got nothing except - Wow! When you release this P. agnata cone for sale, please allow be to be one of the first buyers. In the mean time, I will eager await updates and once I secure the 'CSUF' clone of P. agnata, I would be happy to get you some plantlets or leaves so you can make the first comparisons. Just PM me. You are doing some really great stuff here. Thanks for sharing about your work!
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Post by dvg on Mar 2, 2016 17:30:36 GMT -5
Here are three more clones of that P. agnata x colimensis crossing that have not been shown anywhere before. These all have some coloring in their leaves... leaves with mostly downturned margins. As a side note, leaves of these clones were pulled and laid on top of the media surface of their pots and those pulls have successfully struck. This clone's leaves stay green, except for the outer leaf margins. This clone, before it began dividing and flowering, with its brown coloring and dewy leaves, looked like a frost covered pine cone. This is one of its flowers. And all three together... dvg
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Post by lloyd on Mar 2, 2016 17:35:06 GMT -5
I want some!
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Post by natchgreyes on Mar 2, 2016 18:05:12 GMT -5
Incredible! (I should really try growing in pure lava rock, too).
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Post by dvg on Mar 8, 2016 18:05:12 GMT -5
Thanks guys, Here is a P. agnata x heterophylla clone getting ready to divide, already showing three new growth points. An overhead shot of this exact same clone, except its growing in cristate form. And a side shot of this monster. dvg
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Post by dvg on Mar 12, 2016 16:36:11 GMT -5
The other P. agnata x heterophylla clone has come into flower for its first time. This flower has taken a lot of the pollen donor traits of its P. heterophylla father. Compare it with the top view of an unopened P. heterophylla flower, noticing the alternating green streaks between the purple bands. The other side view of this hybrid, showing purple coloring on the underside of the corolla, that it has also picked up from the father pollen donor. Back to the underside of an unopened P. heterophylla flower to see the coloring on the outer fringes of its corolla. This P. agnata x heterophylla hybrid takes a lot from heterophylla, but still retains the short nectar spur of agnata. dvg
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Post by shoggoths on Mar 12, 2016 18:38:17 GMT -5
Nasty !
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