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Post by Rug on Jun 19, 2007 13:32:14 GMT -5
Updated June 19th. Got plants from Macrovulgaris in the greenhouse on e-bay. Absolute wonder to deal with!! The plants were in perfect shape when they arrived. Just recieved the following: N. Rajah, N.Truncata and N. Pillosa x Veitchii. Heres a link to her site on ebay. Have a look see! She stayed in contact with me the entire time the plants were enroute. Obviously loves her plants!!! stores.ebay.ca/Macrovulgaris-in-the-Greenhouse
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Post by insectivore on Jun 19, 2007 21:36:05 GMT -5
Where did you get N. Pillosa x Veitchii??? Cya
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Post by vraev on Jun 19, 2007 21:54:06 GMT -5
HEYYYYY! copyright infringement... ;D ... HOLY GRAIL?? lol! the rajah is my holy grail. lol! .. just kiddin lol! this is one of those situations where I feel its gonna be sweet once I finish med school, lol! I will have no restraints..... my first doing will be a order to BE... like an order of like 400$ of neps. lol! ...well...I forgot about giving the context, lol! the context is adults get to do what they want.
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Post by Rug on Jun 20, 2007 1:44:09 GMT -5
LOL yeah its funny cause I totatlly stole that from ya!!! I got all three of those Neps from Macro. The Pillosa was a gift actually! Don't know what I said to deserve it but I am thankful. Seems like she should actually belong to our site. Free advertising and its the ppl you want to sell to.
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Post by vraev on Jun 20, 2007 2:07:35 GMT -5
thats pretty cool that you got a nep gift. good luck growing them. Hopefully u don't freak out at every single hiccup the rajah makes......hopefully not like someone I know really well. . lol!
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Post by Rug on Jun 20, 2007 2:35:48 GMT -5
LOL yeah i've seen a million posts from that guy u know about the rajah. Which means I now have the benefit of your experiences. But i'll be fine. If it dies then I know I suck! An i should stcik to goldfish!
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Post by vraev on Jun 20, 2007 7:26:40 GMT -5
lol! thats the reason why.....ppl say u shouldn't try the harder ones first. But, hey, its not that you are poaching it from the wild...and its not that you are directly killing it... you are trying to learn to grow it right. Go for it. Thats what I hate, when people mock others down saying that those neps are tooo hard and that you should have stuck to ventricosa and alata. Hey, I feel personally that the harder plants are the challenge and they give the satisfaction once u get them the way you want them.
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Post by Rug on Jun 23, 2007 15:20:20 GMT -5
Updated June 23
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Post by vraev on Jun 23, 2007 19:23:14 GMT -5
o man! thats a long list of plants. WOW! thats like a geometric progression of your grow list. But a word of warning though, grow the existing plants for a while to find out your strong and weak points in cultivation and then expand. OR else, it will be hard to accept when something goes wrong.
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Post by Rug on Jun 23, 2007 23:24:30 GMT -5
Yeah I think I'm at that point of what yer saying now. Being new at it I need to be a bit more cautious. So far all seem to be thriving but I may be getting to the point of over extending myself. Time to slow down my list on neps and really focus on the ones I have. Been since May really and I've gone overboard on the amout of plants I have. I have just got the "Savage Garden" and "Growing Carnivorous Plants" books and realised a few things I'm not doing right and a few things I can do better. I think I need to focus more on the conditions that I have which I really think I'm bordering on a disaster. So much to learn in a small time when u go too big, too fast. Good thing is that so far everything I've bought are actually throwing up new pitchers (exception are the 3 new plants) I've actually reserected the Akai Ryu's from Canadian Tire which had 2 traps left and were going south. Now they are throwing up about 4 new leaves each. But time to do more intense focus on conditions I grow in and not Quantity of plants. Guess I needed someone to point that out. I kept thinking that but it never really set in. Thnx (since now my wife says "I TOLD U SO!" LOL)
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Post by vraev on Jun 24, 2007 0:19:32 GMT -5
VFT's are actually not as bad as some ppl think. I would warn you with the neps. THey take a while to come back properly. I am not trying to discourage you. I am only saying that with my experience on neps...mostly all have their induvidual conditions. I see that you are getting a mix of lowlands and highlands. I started off with a ventrata which took 8 months to come back to thriving and made like 6 pitchers in a month. Till then for the 8 months I didn't have asingle pitcher start since i got the plant. But, you never know....you probbaly are giving it better conditions. So all the more power to you. Congratulations with the increments. But, consider the worst case scenario where you are completely overwhelmed with the problems the plants may give due to their finickyness. In that case, you would probably just be sooo pissed off at the entire thing....that you might give up on CP's altogehter. I came that close to loosing it when I got my neps and moved in to this student room. I almost lost it. However, after I saw them giving signs of survival..I have perked down. Only now I am starting to get the urges to buy more plants... I really want the red alata with the green peristome that macrovulgaris is selling....I really want the albo and a few of his other plants. However, I am trying to stop myself due to two reasons: 1) Financial 2) I am trying to tell myself that I first want to grow the existing ones well...before moving onto more. I want this hobby to last me all my life...I do not want it to end due to mass killings of CP's which I had greedily bought without consideration. Hope you don't take this the wrong way rug. At the same time, I was like that too....I started off on VFTs despite advice that I should start with something easier. Sometimes the challenge is necessary to give the excitement of accomplishment. Well! good luck dude! have fun growing them! Hope they do well for you!
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Post by lloyd on Jun 24, 2007 8:15:40 GMT -5
It's good to have some attractive, easy growing plants so you can watch them while the difficult ones are struggling.
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Post by insectivore on Jun 24, 2007 9:27:12 GMT -5
Hey Guys! About What you said Vraev, Last year I bought almost all of the neps that I now have... Besides Truncata... I bought my first Greenhouse from Crappy Tire And put neons in it... I figured that Heat rises so if I put the lowlands on the top shelves and highlands on the shelf closest to the concrete I was gonna get fairly stabble temps for the lowland and a nice cool climate for the Highlands. It w2as a succes, There all still Growing well! So Neps are accualy easy... They wont die in the wrong conditions they just wont grow fast and will rarely or not at all pitcher... (Thats at the acception of Rajah, Villosa and a few other fussy ones...) About VFT's I"ve been into Cp's for 6 years now... And its only This year That I'm starting to have succes.... My luck with VFT's is crap! But wih neps I can grow quite a few!!! So I guess it depends on each person... Rug My personal Advise to you is, If you can support there condition's Get a green house, terrarium, what ever you want to grow em in, and Try a bunch of stuff! You can get a puile of neps of ebay later on in the summer for cheap... Now everyone is trying to get the ones they want/don't have... (Like me ;D) Hope that Helps and its just my 5 Cents! Cya BTW... Talking about experience and stuff... I think I've killed a lot of plants myself from different problems (Lack of water, Bug problems, wrong temps, no dormancy...) So its just to say... Loosing your favorite plant can happen... But you have to keep your head up!
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Post by vraev on Jun 24, 2007 10:52:18 GMT -5
well....I just had that revelation when I bought my neps. AND, probably I am like this becos I am still waiting or hoping for my neps to come back well. But, you are true, each has their own genus of expertise in CP's. I am happy that dionaea are doing well with me...and i am proud to have most others do decent with me as well. However, It would seriously be a big blow for me if anything happens to the neps or ceph (God forbid). The next time, I would try to steer clear to avoid being a plant killer. Unless, the killing was not due to my cultivation efforts, but due to days of like no water or no light or stuff like that. I guess I am still a relative newbie. I have only killed 2 plants: 1 dentate, 1 green dragon which didn't wake up from forced dormancy. I hope that no plants that I own now, will go onto that list. BTW vinc.....if u want to do well with VFT's : scrap the GE gro and sho and the warm white ... VFT's don't like them. They want nice daylight flouroscents. Get the GE Gro and sho and you will be growing picture perfect VFTs in like 3-4 months. but getting back to topic: Check it out Rug. Read up on neps....atleast I think they need some more care..... WTH am I talking about?? They need a freakin lot of care. Damn! I have to come back from the library in 6 hrs to ensure how the humidity is..and the freaking enclousure doesnt' seal and humidity just goes down...down and down all the way to 40%. its a nightmare. lol! thats just me....maybe later if I grow them well...my views will chage. but, in my experience, neps require more care and effort than VFT's. I truly ignore my VFT;s now...I seriously ignore them. I watch them like once a day...water them 3 times a week and then i notice cool stuff like cutting regenration...O BTW...my big typical is splitting again .. lol!
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Post by insectivore on Jun 24, 2007 21:52:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips Vraev! My Dentes and Red Dragon is in full sun! My Bigmouth is une 2 lights... One Gro and sho and one warm white... Its been growing well! Cya
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