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Post by Syble on Jan 2, 2011 16:36:21 GMT -5
wow, that sounds above my pay grade haha. Dr. lloyd has done it again. I've still got a stock of no damp myself, so i'm set for a while, but i know who's door to knock on when the time comes haha. Sib
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Post by sherkas on Jan 2, 2011 20:20:53 GMT -5
I would be interested in like a 500ml or maybe a litre of it (if it stores a while) for sure.
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Post by Rug on Jan 2, 2011 21:36:34 GMT -5
I'd pitch in of course!
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Post by H2O on Jan 3, 2011 12:18:18 GMT -5
Count me in too, what can't Lloyd do?
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Post by boabab95 on Jan 3, 2011 18:50:16 GMT -5
Count me in too, what can't Lloyd do? Fly... or did you figure how to loyd??? haha Sounds cool... Never used no-damp, But i'd probably be interested (once i know what to use it for haha)
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Post by Syble on Jan 4, 2011 12:44:40 GMT -5
no damp is a fungicide, good for preventing rot on VFT put in the fridge for dormancy, or preventing dampening off of seedlings, good general purpose! Sib
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Post by boabab95 on Jan 4, 2011 20:15:48 GMT -5
oh, well in that case... ya I'd totally be interested!!!
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Post by sherkas on Jan 7, 2011 16:16:35 GMT -5
Ya if it comes to something fungis or rot wise and no-damp doesnt take care of it, I consider it a BAD prob lem and beyond my expertise lol. No-damp = my fav. product.
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Post by lloyd on Jan 9, 2011 22:13:54 GMT -5
I mixed up a 60 ml. batch of No-damp (2.5% oxine benzoate, 97.5% isopropyl alcohol by weight). It seems to be the real stuff, same brownish colour, same smell. Note that the old No-Damp was 3.2% oxine benzoate, probably no difference. Let me know what volume of No-Damp you want to mix up and I will send you the proper amount of the dry ingredients. You mix it yourself-see below. It seems to keep for a long time but you may want to mix up smaller batches and use as needed. See below for the details. Post in this thread so we can all gauge the interest. Then we can figure out prices-just enough so I'll break even + postage. Supplies cost me $53.16 . plantprodmany.compassites.com/?m=product_pdf&u=plantmany&p=products&id=1099021If you look at the MSDS of No-Damp you will note it is 2.5% oxine benzoate and 97.5% isopropyl alcohol by weight and the SG (specific gravity is 0.79. The molar weight of oxine or 8-hydroxyquinoline is 145.16 and benzoic acid is 122.12 (gm/mole). So the molar weight of oxine benzoate is 267.28. The SG of isopropyl alcohol is 0.786. This is all you need. So say you want to make V ml. of No-Damp. This would weigh 0.79V which would be 97.5% isopropyl alcohol by weight or 0.79V x 0.975 gm or .79V x 0.975/.786 or 0.98V ml. For the same V ml of No-damp the oxine benzoate would weigh .025 x 0.79V gm. or .025 x 0.79V/267.28 moles. Then the oxine would weigh 145.16 x 0.025 x 0.79V/267.28 or 0.0107 V gm. Similarly the benzoate would weigh 122.12 x 0.025 x 0.79V/267.28 or 0.009 V gm. For example to make 100 ml of No-Damp take 98 ml of 99% Isopropyl alcohol (the stuff I have from SDM or Loblaws is pure except for 1% water, no other adulterants), add 8-hydroxquinoline 1.07 gm and benzoic acid 0.9 gm. Mix it outside & keep it outside in plastic or glass (not metal), well sealed. Dilute it 100 to 1 immediately before use.
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Post by lloyd on Jan 14, 2011 15:29:06 GMT -5
So far I have Rug, sherkas, justin, baobab, labine down for N-Damp. It will be for 500ml. $3 for chemicals, $3 for S&H. pm me your adresses, I will ship next week.
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Post by subzero on Mar 3, 2011 17:35:18 GMT -5
i would also like some N-Damp how do I give you my address or contact info?
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Post by lloyd on Jul 17, 2011 21:22:21 GMT -5
Well the No-Damp is slowly selling and my fame is spreading across the planet. My last sale was to Tasmania! It actually got there Ok, too. Present sales are for $7 to Canada with postage included. Two packs of chemicals for 250 CC each of No-Damp each after adding the Isopropyl alcohol. USA $8, international $11.
Get it while it lasts!
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Post by lloyd on Mar 11, 2013 10:22:07 GMT -5
There seems to be enough interest to make a new order for chemicals for No-Damp. I will make an order and when the chemicals arrive I will post here and can take orders. Probably the same price: $6 (see above for details). Needless to say this just covers costs. Non-monetary donations gladly accepted.
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Post by 31drew31 on Mar 11, 2013 11:33:05 GMT -5
Sounds good Lloyd!
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Post by lloyd on Mar 11, 2013 12:57:13 GMT -5
Ok, I just ordered the supplies. No change in price. $6 per chemicals to make 500 cc of No-Damp. You dilute it 100:1 for use so that's 50 L of liquid for application. Basically a lifetime supply!
Add to the list here and make sure you've PM'ed me your address. I'll PM when payment is due when I ship.
BTW, I'm shipping the Benzoic acid (white) and 8-HQ (brown) separately so you can make up as much as you want (up to 500cc) using the above instructions.
1) sekler shipping March 15 2) 31drew31 shipped 3) hackerberry shipped 4) dvg shipped
Don't be shy, there is now lots of No-Damp. Come one, come all, get your red-hot No-Damp.
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