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Post by Syble on May 5, 2009 13:37:56 GMT -5
like many of you, I have a couple plants that i've been watching and nurturing and have become quite pleased with their progress. I remember chatting with a few people last fall about doing a hardiness study or the like, and was curious if there were others interested in doing the same? I have 2 clones i need tested. So I'm looking for sunny inground bogs to grow them in. It has survived my bog being left without cover all winter long with flying colours, what do you think? sib
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Post by Rick Hillier on May 5, 2009 14:20:12 GMT -5
I'd love to help you out, but my present bog ain't sunny and there's not too much left of it after being demolished by a double dose of hailstorms, but I'm hoping to get the new hole dug out this spring and going from there.
>>> Rick <<<
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Post by brian on May 5, 2009 14:34:45 GMT -5
I'd love to have the chance to test them in my Bancroft minibog! ;D
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Post by Syble on May 5, 2009 20:51:40 GMT -5
Just let me know when its up and going rick, I'll help ya repopulate! Sounds good brian. They should preform well for ya, as they have 95% of their pitchers that they had last year, and that was with my bog being left uncovered. Anyone in the warm bits of bc and or bitter cold bits of the plains? Sib
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Post by snowman on Sept 2, 2009 17:15:43 GMT -5
I'm sure that you found takers for testing all of your plants by now, but if you or any one else knows where I can find some, (or one that I can propigate more from) for my wetland rehabilitation project. It's NE of Toronto. I cabn't seem to find anyone here in the city that sells the indigenous sarracenia purpurea. Truthfully I haven't looked all that long, but any help would be appretiated. Cheers, Marc.
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Post by petmantis on Sept 2, 2009 17:47:48 GMT -5
Snowman: I would try Keehns Carnivores and Hawaiian Botanicals, they're the main CP nurseries here in Canada. Make sure to get the S. purpurea ssp purpurea, not ssp venosa (the latter being the Southern purple pitcher plant...not hardy here)
Also check the Trading Post, members occasionaly have plant sales.
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Post by snowman on Sept 2, 2009 18:31:34 GMT -5
Thanks. I was hoping to find something local, but I guess I'll have to do the online thing. I'll check the trading post as well. Thanks again.
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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2009 18:35:38 GMT -5
snowman: for a restoration project, buying plants will be too costly at the end. I am doing my M. Sc in peatland restoration, perhaps i can help you out. Pm me with your project description.
Mass propagated plants are usually originally from a limited number of clone in TC, which might not be handy in a restoration project, genetic diversity helping to implant a resilient population (amongst factors). Seeds would be more appropriate IMO.
Usually, in peatlands restpred by the Sphagnum transfert techniques, seedbank of S. purpurea are present and viable, leading to a S. purpurea population establishment within few years.
Waiting to hear from you
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Post by lloyd on Sept 2, 2009 19:53:42 GMT -5
Local purps are really easy to grow from seeds. I have a two year old one that is already a mature looking plant.
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Post by Syble on Sept 2, 2009 22:15:41 GMT -5
i will have purp divisions in the spring many probably. Sib
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Post by snowman on Sept 3, 2009 7:06:27 GMT -5
Thanks all, Tom, myself and the others helping in the many projects out at my farm would greatly appretiate any help!
Buying plants would be a costly endevour indeed. I was planning to get a few plants to clone over the winter( I'm just thinking now that the dormancy period may be an issue with that) , but the genetic diversity argument makes sense. I'm looking at other plants to put into the mix as well that pertain to that biome.
I will get back to you in day or so with a project discription-- crazy at work today.
Lloyd, I believe Seeds for S. purpurea need a stratiffication period (3 months?) I thought I read about someone using dish soap to over come this (?)
Syble, it would be great to throw yours into the mix!
MS
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Post by lloyd on Sept 3, 2009 18:55:32 GMT -5
I don't know about 3 months, 6 weeks I think is Ok. You can easily overcome it with GA3 at 250 ppm for 24 hours. I usually do the stratification for a few months, then the GA3 for ~ 90% germination. In about 2 years you'll have small adult looking plants. You can do it faster but I like to go with the seasons with the temperate stuff.
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Post by snowman on Sept 4, 2009 6:56:13 GMT -5
Good info! It makes sense to keep with seasonal timings, if the plants will be permenantly out doors.
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Post by khoas on Sept 5, 2009 20:05:59 GMT -5
like to help with hardiness test but my climiate only test the how low the humidity goes and hot it get before they cook !
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Post by jonnybee7 on Sept 14, 2009 20:46:23 GMT -5
I'd be interested in seeing how well anything does out here in Manitoba.
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