|
Post by vraev on Jan 14, 2007 22:25:23 GMT -5
Hi guys, I present to you...some kind of ping I went to drop my brother off at UofB in new york. I forced my parents to wait outside lowes and checked out the plant section. They had CP's in their cubes of death. I was really tempted to buying one of the bigger cubes which had a VFT, 1 cobra, 1 D.Adalae. it was 9$ US. However, my parents resisted that they would only pay if I choose one of the smaller cubes which had VFT's drosera and cobra alone. the small cubes were horrible ...especially VFT's with like 2 leaves and cobra plant that is all dried up. However, they had 2 pings. I choose this one since it had small plantlets coming from a leaf. It looks nice.....kinda cute. here are pics: It cost me 3.97$ US. Please help me identify what it is and if I can place it in my terrarium which has 50% peat and perlite. Also any special requirements??? cheers, varun
|
|
|
Post by insectivore on Jan 14, 2007 22:32:49 GMT -5
Pings are pretty impossible to identify without a flower but its hard to make out the leaves with the brurryness of this pic... If you can gt a bit of a clearer pic it may help! Cya p.s. Common GC pings are Agnata and Moranensis but by the leaf shape it looks like neither...
|
|
|
Post by vraev on Jan 14, 2007 22:35:11 GMT -5
I'm afraid thats the best I can do. The phone cam is horrible ...but thats all I have now.
|
|
|
Post by sdeering on Jan 14, 2007 22:41:37 GMT -5
If that plantlet is growing off the end of the lief it should be a P.primaflora. How did you get it across the boarder? Stephen
|
|
|
Post by vraev on Jan 14, 2007 22:59:25 GMT -5
I knew it was risky and was kinda prepared to throw it away in the worst case scenario . But at the end, the customs people didnt really care...they asked anything to declare and we said nope. We were off on our way. I must say it was good luck but I hope its not limited to what happened now. I am kinda begging my brother to get me a ceph in feb. . I was bugging him that I will give him the web address and ask him to get me some plants from california carnivores. But he was pretty reluctant considering the customs issue and all. So its not yet decided. My family is totally against taking the risk. However, if I do ever visit US sometime...I will definately get a big collection of CP's. However, this might be a few years down the road. and yeah...I will obviously declare them BTW...yeah..plantlets are growing off the leaf. And I had a hunch it was a primaflora. Can I pot it in my terrarium??? Or should I leave it in its all LFS cube?
|
|
|
Post by insectivore on Jan 14, 2007 23:07:58 GMT -5
I just noticed the pic of the flower on the box! Compared it to flower pics on google of Pinguicula Primuliflora and guess what... A MATCH!!! Peter D'Amato says that they are short lived and prone to rot so collect the plantlets that form on the leaf tips! Good luck growing! Cya P.S. I had one once found it hard to grow but then I was just starting!
|
|
|
Post by vraev on Jan 15, 2007 2:19:09 GMT -5
hmm....I planted it carefully inside my terrarium near the typical. The plantlet that fell off with a little part of the leaf ..I planted it on peat + sprinkled little soil on the leaf. I guess I am no big fan of these cuties but it would be nice to have a variety. Damn! my terrarium btw is filling up bad. . I wonder where I have to keep all the plants that come out of dormancy. Its going to be a hard time this feb
|
|
|
Post by mabudon on Jan 15, 2007 11:15:38 GMT -5
Looks good Varun!! Once you get access to a car, you're gonna have to come and visit, I will pump yer collection up real good Pings seem to be the easiest CP to grow well, besides Utrics, so you're kinda working the curve backwards but either way it's coming along well for you. Congrats on beating the border too, tho if you REALLY want to cross with plants on your person, I have talked with customs and a CITES "rep" in the past year and from what they've told me, as long as the thing is NOT CITES appendixed, is bare-root and has a phytosanitary certificate AND some sort of documentation (the CITES fellow told me, since I was specifically asking about Cephs at the time, that even a copy of the Savage Garden with a clear picture of the plant and a good description should be good enough) you should have no troubles bringing stuff across- Sarrs are a different story tho, them you have to be much more careful with, but most CPs with documents, bare-root and the phyto you can import them "personally" (as in bringing the thing actually with you) with little trouble, totally legally.... by mail, the whole thing is a different story as can be seen elsewheres here
|
|
|
Post by Rick Hillier on Jan 15, 2007 14:38:41 GMT -5
After what Sybil and I have endured with our latest order (getting all of the proper permits and certs, etc.), and still not having them after 30 days in shipping because of these customs idiots, I say smuggle the darned things across, even if its in a compartment in your golf bag or in the laundry bag full of used underwear and socks.
A good way to ensure success is to inundate them with paperwork. Simply purchase a whole pile of small stuff (T-shirts, shoes, golf balls, etc.) and keep a large manilla envelope full of the appropriate receipts to back them up.
Hide your "stash" well and when you get to the border and they ask you if you are bringing anything across, say "yes" and then hand them the envelope full of paperwork, looking them right in the eye as you do so. They'll quickly hand it back to you and send you on your way.
I hate to endorse something that is illegal, but it should be illegal for customs to hold up something that has the proper certs and permits to a point where I'd have a better chance of bringing Saddam back to life than I would the plants.
>>> Rick <<<
|
|
|
Post by vraev on Jan 15, 2007 16:15:43 GMT -5
Sorry for your bad luck there rick . I know what u mean.....Its annoying to spend all that money only to see it being held up to the point of the plant's death. I kinda feel bad about what I did...and I also shudder at the prospect of what would have happened if I had been caught....it would have been real bad. gosh! would have messed up mine and my family's life. lol mabudon! Getting a car byself is going to take quite a while. I have other things in my life which might hold me up for a couple of years for sure. BTW guys...check this out:: the leaf is kinda shrivelling....is it bad?? I know its hard to see...but u should notice the couple of leaves that are new are starting to shrivel. this was when I potted last night: this is today morning....notice on the LEFT there are leaves that are starting to shrivel. damn! if this dies...I will be pissed ....I could have got a freakin nice typical VFT instead which I know how to keep alive instead
|
|
|
Post by Flytrap on Jan 15, 2007 16:38:39 GMT -5
I hate to admit to this, but I agree. I feel the whole beurocratic-ness of this plant quarantine witch hunt is beyond absurdity. Leo Song, former head CP meister at the Fullerton Arborteum and I had a long chat about this years ago. We both agreed that if the plants grew outdoors here in Canada, and grew out in normal soil conditions (not moss), and if the plants had legs and could walk about, infesting the country, then we MAY see the point. But to keep tropical plants in unprepared holding locations somewhere in a dark and cold spot is something the plant cops don't allow for. If the sole purpose is to snare people uprooting rare and endangered plants, then they're going about it all wrong. You don't hold small hobbyists by their short and curlys just to emphasize who's in charge. They should have a quick and efficient procedure to facilitate small orders - because living material don't live when it sits in a dark holding cell waiting for some beurocrat to come back from holidays. And you DON'T penalize people for abiding by the rules. This is what is wrong with the inspection service here in Canada. And in the past, I declared all my nepenthes at the airport. I call them artificial silk plants, because : 1. they have no roots (ie. cuttings) 2. they have no pitchers (I remove them all) 3. the leaves are usually thick and rubbery And it's a darn good thing I did too...as the habitats for these beauties were destroyed shortly afterwards by redevelopment. D - After what Sybil and I have endured with our latest order (getting all of the proper permits and certs, etc.), and still not having them after 30 days in shipping because of these customs idiots, I say smuggle the darned things across, even if its in a compartment in your golf bag or in the laundry bag full of used underwear and socks. A good way to ensure success is to inundate them with paperwork. Simply purchase a whole pile of small stuff (T-shirts, shoes, golf balls, etc.) and keep a large manilla envelope full of the appropriate receipts to back them up. Hide your "stash" well and when you get to the border and they ask you if you are bringing anything across, say "yes" and then hand them the envelope full of paperwork, looking them right in the eye as you do so. They'll quickly hand it back to you and send you on your way. I hate to endorse something that is illegal, but it should be illegal for customs to hold up something that has the proper certs and permits to a point where I'd have a better chance of bringing Saddam back to life than I would the plants. >>> Rick <<<
|
|
|
Post by insectivore on Jan 15, 2007 19:28:00 GMT -5
It doe's suck that they take their time so much isn't it their job to do that ASAP? Oh well! Hope everything works out for you guys! Cya
|
|
|
Post by lloyd on Jan 15, 2007 20:35:08 GMT -5
I agree with Rick. If you know the plants are not wild collected and there's no possibility of bringing diseases back then just hide them. I find dirty underwear is best for this purpose. The worse that will happen is that they will throw them out. You can always say that they were gifts and you just didn't think to declare them. On the off chance they ask, have some documentation that they are not wild collected and make sure they are bare root.
|
|
|
Post by vraev on Jan 15, 2007 21:58:05 GMT -5
the wholw point being that there are still CP's being imported and considering that its a HOBBY PLANT..and not something that will take over canada...I think its good enough. Its not like the freakin bull frog taking over lepord frogs or whatever.
|
|
|
Post by PingKing on Jan 17, 2007 17:10:28 GMT -5
primuliflora for sure ;D beautiful plant. xr
|
|