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Post by vraev on Sept 20, 2007 21:23:39 GMT -5
Hi guys, If you remember the growth tip of my ceph blackened. yada yada,,,the plant basically made new offshoots and the parent one died. these are pitchers off the offshoots. Now this pic is from the 16th of sept. Notice the left pitcher and right pitchers FRONT RIDGE groove. Especially the black area on the pitcher on the right in that place. Okay! Now see this..this pic is from today. Now....so far...I have fed each pitcher a small betta pellet like a week ago. There is new growth as u can see a bud coming up Now, I am concerned about that black area. It seems to be growing as the pitcher is getting more colourful. Is this something of concern? thanks, varun ICPS link: icps.proboards105.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cephalotus&thread=1190335909&page=1
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Post by vraev on Sept 20, 2007 21:29:55 GMT -5
BTW...the reason the media is black in the new pics is that...
I actually let the sphagnum completely dry out. So dry that the top was like totally dry...not even moist to touch.
Then I watered overhead and then waited to drain. Then removed excess water.
I started this just to prevent some fungal infection in the first place.
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Post by briar on Sept 21, 2007 7:03:38 GMT -5
Personally, Id get it out of that soil mix you have and start using trich... but you knew that was coming I bet parts shouldn't be dying unless something is fundamentally wrong, my traps very, very rarely ever die... they just get buried by new traps.. the black i cant tell much about from the pics... you realize that they do turn a dark almost black color with good lighting... so it may or may not be normal, but you should be able to make that call mate, youve seen enough ceph pics to know if it is normal coloration or something else nice airy mix, big deep pot, trich... then she'll be on cruise control but just my personal opinion mate Butch
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Post by Rick Hillier on Sept 21, 2007 7:29:22 GMT -5
I suspect that a couple of my cephs have the same thing, but more advanced... where can I get this "trich" to treat them.
>>> Rick <<<
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Post by briar on Sept 21, 2007 8:34:29 GMT -5
Rick,
there are a couple sources available to you, see the "how we grow our cephs" thread for more discussion on the matter
HTH's Briar
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Post by Rick Hillier on Sept 21, 2007 10:58:55 GMT -5
I suspect that two of my cephs have ink spot disease... I may just chop the growth crowns off and let them come back from their roots, unless there is a treatment for it.
I made a few cuttings from another ceph earlier this year (all are relatively small right now, but are growing) and they all look fine, but they're in another tank.
>>> Rick <<<
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Post by vraev on Sept 21, 2007 11:37:20 GMT -5
wow....just great. damn...more things to worry about. Sheesh! Just when I was thinking its back on the road to recovery. well...thanks for the help guys. I know...I knew it was coming. I knew that I need to repot sometime.
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Post by Flytrap on Sept 21, 2007 18:06:40 GMT -5
Fungus Schmungus... Heck... you guys are lucky... having the time and good eyesight to see black spots. I am cursing my plants all the time with the weeding and watering. I wish I had time to stop and smell the flowers (or observe the spots Usually by the time my plants get black spots, and when I finally notice it... the damn plant is already dead
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Post by vraev on Sept 21, 2007 19:27:46 GMT -5
what I actually did just now was made a hole at the bottom of the pot. THe top moss is all dry. So I see the bottom and its actually still wet. I guess thats why....Its good to wait a bit longer before watering again.
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Post by briar on Sept 22, 2007 6:47:13 GMT -5
V, Mate, IMHO if you would just get a better mix and use trich...you would find life a lot easier dude... IMHO decreasing your watering will also decrease your gas exchange rate in the root zone.. you are trying to correct a symptom of the prob instead of it's root causes FWIW, here is just one clinical study of trichoderma on "ink spot", its another fungal attack variant... however, the root causes remain the same, too damp and lack of beneficials www.ejbiotechnology.info/content/vol4/issue2/full/1/index.html and as stated in previous postings of mine on various boards, independent clinical studies demostrate that one form of trichoderma or another has shown to be effective against all fungal phytopathogens tested so far to me it's routine and automatic... (Im done preaching, getting off soapbox now...LOL)
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Post by lloyd on Sept 22, 2007 9:19:08 GMT -5
My cephs occasionally have a growing point turn black and die. Other growing points take over and occasionally the old one starts growing again. I thought it was natural. I will try more of the trich. I have Sub-whatever and Root-shield. I guess that most CP problems are root related (except for pests).
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Post by briar on Sept 22, 2007 10:57:21 GMT -5
if i have stepped on any toes, then please accepth my sincere apologies, it was not my intention or desire to do so of course there can be may causes for a plant not to do well.. lighting, nutrients, chemical, pest, phytopathogen, temp, and humidity just to name a few.. and i am only speaking in regards to my own personal experiences with my own personal plants.. I am trying however to fight a uphill battle it seems, for whatever reason it is extrememly hard to get people to look at the independent lab studies and to use a little old fashioned common sense.. is it a cure all, of course not... I said that in the how we grow cephs thread But V has been having one issue after another and IMHO it is related to the reasons I stated... and I have told him this many times over the last few months.. i was simply trying to convince him to give it a try based upon my personal experiences remember the ceph I have with shipping damage, well here is 3 weeks growth and this morning: and this is with the seasonal reduction in photoperiod and feedings... now Im sure others probably have better results, but there is a whole lot who's arent doing near as well I bet. again my apologies.. sometimes i get just too passionate about the subject.. I will not let it happen again Thanks for giving me the chance to share my methods, however right or wrong they may be enuff said Cheers' Butch
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Post by vraev on Sept 22, 2007 11:51:52 GMT -5
wow briar! that looks like a true carpet. WOW. fantastic dude. fantastic. Alright ...then.....repotting......hmmmmm................I guess it needs to be done.
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Post by vraev on Sept 23, 2007 14:48:24 GMT -5
Alright guys...as said in the other thread. Repotting is commencing now.
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Post by eql on Oct 3, 2007 21:46:54 GMT -5
what is this "trich" that everyone keeps talking about... google keeps giving me results that say its a fungus "trichoderma"... but i cant understand how/why that would be a good thing... ?!?!?!?!
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